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NEW Anti-Kerry 527 Group Credits SBVT Success
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Indianbaboon
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Navy_Navy_Navy wrote:
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Swiftvets is NOT pro-bush and so it is important that they (and we, as their minions) remember that and honor that.



Thank you, that's exactly right. Some people think we come down on them a little too hard for Bush cheerleading. But some of the founders are not Republicans, and would have voted for any Democratic candidate but Kerry.

We need to keep our focus - there are a lot of Democrats, Independents, Greens and Constitutionalists who support us. Everyone who is dedicated to spreading and supporting the Swifts message is welcome here.


as a Badnarik supporter who writes and works for pro-Bush organizations, I understand completely Laughing Also, I think it's important that people realize this group wouldn't exist if it had been say, Dean (the rare democrat I can respect) who'd been the candidate instead.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the reason the Swifties have had such an effect on Kerry is precisely because the facts are on their side and they have not overplayed their hand.
Kerry's responses are not the responses of an honest man who has nothing to hide. The more he attacks back with smears and easily debunkable claims, the more he damages his own credibility.
The MSM have lost control of this story. This story has the most precious kind of advertising, Word of Mouth. The impact of Swifties is completely off the radar of the MSM because they miss the character of it. It is the millions of veterans and other good solid Americans out there that know a rat when they see one that are giving this legs. No amount of advertising or spin will be able to stop it.
The Swifties will win as long as they do not engage in partisan mudslinging. Stick to the facts, stand up for what you believe, tell the truth and the people will help them.
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Stevie
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't usually get video stuff to come up on my computer, but I'll try to see if I can view this new ad....

what the Swifties have on their side is the TRUTH.... I still believe truth will win ! Kerry doesn't need to worry about money to spend on ads.... their 527's have more millions than I could count....

but maybe if the ads aren't to bad... he'll still have to spend time defending them.... but I don't like mud slinging... wish there was a way to make everyone stick to the truth....

kerry and his people are going to be spending time trying to figure out what to do about the Navy investigation (not our 'Navy' here... the big Navy....) and Kerry's comments last night about Cheney's deferments... when he also tried to get one, is not gonna make him look good... having it said on Fox and Friends this a.m. wasn't good for Kerry.... maybe other talking heads will bring it up now...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't go anywhere near this outfit--They might as well call themselves "adhominem.com"--Dirty, icky stuff and I don't want any part of it--

And I don't think they'll do W any good which, I presume, is their goal--
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msindependent
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They shouldn't ride on the SwiftVet's coattails or mention them. I'm staying away from these people and you are right about different political parties being here.
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FredRum
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their "MoveOn" name alone is going to (and should) doom them to failure. You don't succeed at this game by aping your extremely successful opposition.

Need an example? How about "The O'Franken Factor" on Air America.
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vickie
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:18 pm    Post subject: Hammer is right... Reply with quote

"White" Republicans criticize Sharpton... Bring up Willie Horton again.. This ad will energize the left. More fodder for the liberal MSM. The SBVT will be guilty by association. Do not like the name "move on" in their name.

They maybe just trying to suck money and air out of a very effective search for the truth. There is a possibility that they are funded by Soros.

Does anybody know these guys?

Let's keep our eye on the ball. The Kerry has yet to personally respond to the Cambodia lie or the first PH lie in the MSM . Onward with the search for the truth. End of story!
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jstoc
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: New group the slimy equivalent of the Dems Reply with quote

The new 527 group has little if anything to do with truth, which is what the Swifties are all about. It's every bit as sleazy as the Dem's MoveOn. Sad to see things descend into the scummy bottom, rather than being raised up to the light of day, where the Truth will out.
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DevilDon
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can tell you that I rarely venture into new venues in this campaign, even though I think this campaign is for the security of this nation.

Swiftboat Veterans for Truth have so much damning evidence that it's impossible to ignore this site. If you could get one Kerry supporter to spend some time here, they'd know as well.

I've voted Republican since Reagan, call myself a Republican, but if a piece of crap like this came up, I'd be on the Dem bandwagon in a heartbeat. Makes you wonder how any veteran can vote for Kerry. This guy is bad and a tall salute to the SBVT's for bringing honesty to politics. You never need to paint the truth, it's red, white and blue.
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