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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 12:48 am Post subject: |
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carpro wrote: | [
Let's see now. I believe the discussion was about it being the US's fault that Michael Berg was slaughtered because of the prison abuse. At least that's what the terrorists were claiming. And someone on this forum wrote:
"Berg was the first of the hostages to actually have been killed. The timing wasn't random and I believe the captors when they claim this as the reason for not murdering anyone else held captive until now. "
Seems like somebody did say it was the US's fault when they agreed with the killers. How about it, Sparky?
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Sparky,
This is your quote. You explain it. Duck, dodge, weave , change the subject. _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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mikest PO2
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 377
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Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Still no answers, but I have another question. You say suspension of that pesky document, the Constitution. That document is explicit in the seperation of powers. So how do you reconcile this attemot to remove that?
Quote: | Congressional Accountability for Judicial Activism Act of 2004 (Introduced in House)
HR 3920 IH
th CONGRESS
d Session
H. R. 3920
To allow Congress to reverse the judgments of the United States Supreme Court. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
March 9, 2004
Mr. LEWIS of Kentucky (for himself, Mr. DEMINT, Mr. EVERETT, Mr. POMBO, Mr. COBLE, Mr. COLLINS, Mr. GOODE, Mr. PITTS, Mr. FRANKS of Arizona, Mr. HEFLEY, Mr. DOOLITTLE, and Mr. KINGSTON) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Rules, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
A BILL
To allow Congress to reverse the judgments of the United States Supreme Court.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Congressional Accountability for Judicial Activism Act of 2004'.
SEC. 2. CONGRESSIONAL REVERSAL OF SUPREME COURT JUDGMENTS.
The Congress may, if two thirds of each House agree, reverse a judgment of the United States Supreme Court--
(1) if that judgment is handed down after the date of the enactment of this Act; and
(2) to the extent that judgment concerns the constitutionality of an Act of Congress. |
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sparky Former Member
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 546
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Man, Carpo, this is the third time I've posted this response. Unlike your selective quotation, this is the full response about Michael Berg murder. Context can make a world of difference. I'll post my full response for the third time and (again) add bolding to the important parts you selectively edited out, you slippery little weasel, you.
Quote: | What nobody said:
Anything about "the jews"
9/11 was the U.S.'s fault
Saddam's tortures were the fault of the U.S.
Blaming the victims
Neither Berg nor the U.S. was responsible for his death: the terrorists were. To explain their motives isn't to absolve them of their guilt or place the blame on the victim, who had nothing to do with the prison torture or murders anyway.
In any tit-for-tat, the wrongdoer is still the wrongdoer. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be aware that our tit can lead to their tat. Indeed, we should be aware that when it comes to tit-for-tat terror, they're better at it.
But one person blaming Rumsfeld is Berg's father. He must know more than the rest of us. |
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carpro Admin
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Good try, O Sparkless One.
The quote I gave is yours from another thread.
Live with it.
OR
Duck, dodge, weave, change the subject.
You usual method. _________________ "If he believes his 1971 indictment of his country and his fellow veterans was true, then he couldn't possibly be proud of his Vietnam service." |
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sparky Former Member
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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And that's the third time I posted the same response. I guess I'll just keep posting it for each time you ask for an explanation, eh? Looks like you enjoy your interpretation of my first statement but prefer that my response not clarify matters.
Here's one American who's doing exactly what you accuse me of:
Nick Berg's father calls on Rumsfeld to resign
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
The father of a US man whose murder in Iraq was videotaped has blamed the US defence secretary for his son's death.
Michael Berg said he held Washington responsible, particularly Donald Rumsfeld, whom he said should resign.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3721207.stm |
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