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srmorton · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:53 am Post subject:

Juan had become almost reasonable at times since he left CNN
to join FOX and I can certainly tolerate Mara better than that
insipid CeCe. I agree that lately Juan appears to be losing it.
The thing that surprised me is how Juan chose to mention the
order for the physical. (Mark Shields on PBS and CNN mentioned
the same thing, which shows it must be on the Democrat talking
points.) That charge is easily proven to be false by checking the
TANG protocol for physicals. They were given a 90-day window
to complete their physicals which did not expire until the end of
their birthday month - which for GWB is July. The memo that
supposedly "ordered" him to report for his physical was dated
in May - two months too early! A little checking of his facts
would have kept Juan from appearing so partsian.
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happyday · Lt.Jg. Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 139 Location: Omaha, NE

Excuse me, I'm desperately confused here.

The Rathergate papers are so obviously forgeries that simpletons like me can see it, and yet they are trying to say on the one hand they are authentic and on the other hand that if they aren't, it's the Swiftee's fault?

And even if they weren't forgeries, how does delaying an order to take a physical for flight qualification even approach Kerry's aiding and giving comfort to the enemy during the Vietnam era?

In my humble opinion, the substance of the documents is a complete non-issue because they are forgeries. The issue ought to be that Rather took unsubstantiated documents from someone and tried to pass them off as legitiment, and seem utterly incapable of doing what an honest and decent journalist would be expected to do in these circumstances, which is at least issue a retraction and apology.

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Nomorelies · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:54 am Post subject:

Juan Williams works for NPR. I hate when he opens his mouth. He never comes to a point and just aimlessly sputters through with half-thoughts and leftover ideas. IMHO he is dumb as a rock and, to make matters worse, an unrepentant liberal. I really don't think Juan Williams knows why he is a liberal. I guess it just depends on what the definition of is is. Brit Hume needs to replace him. He is so very dull.
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larrygj · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:52 am Post subject:

Juan's increasing hysteria as a FOX "all-star" is telling. People who lose it the way he does, blustering and shouting, do so because they no longer can draw on truth as an ally. Contrast Juan's DNC-inspired flailings with the calm, dignified way John O'Neill presented the Swifties' case on Friday at the San Francisco Commonwealth Club (C-SPAN2) and again today at the Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry rally in D.C. (again shown on C-SPAN). It takes more energy and emotion to twist the truth than to simply tell it.

For hotheads like Juan Williams, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy and Jim Carville, there's the ancient Greek saying: "He whom the gods wish to destroy they first make angry."

After Nov. 2, Juan can join Dan Rather at Pravda. I understand they have some openings.

Larry

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larrygj · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:46 am Post subject:

OK, I know somebody who knows somebody who has copies of documents from Kerry's personal diary, created on Kerry's Apple II computer back in 1968, where he admits raping two Vietnamese peasant women before torturing them to death, then burning their hooch down with their children inside while he played the Beatles White Album.

All right, I admit the documents are probably forgeries, but what about the information they contain? I mean, I think Mr. Kerry should answer for this!

Juan Williams logic.

How pathetic. The Kerry-mobile (sometimes an SUV, sometimes not) ran out of gas some time ago, so now they got to start making this stuff up.

Some years ago lobbyists in D.C. got so out of hand that a law was passed requiring them to register and identify who they are lobbying for. Maybe another such law has to be passed requiring "journalists" to identify themselves as shills whenever they become just another surrogate for the candidate they back.

Stevie · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:28 am Post subject:

it's a left wing conspiracy.... they don't care... it gets news coverage - free
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jataylor11 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject:

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It really didn't surprise me when I heard Williams make that comment yesterday--Friday the "All Stars" were on almost immediately after Rather's attempted whitewash of the "documents" on the Evening News he was saying that CBS's "expert" had just "proven" (PROVEN??--Just by saying it, it's proven?) that electric typewriters which could have produced these memos existed as far back as 1932, which isn't even close to what was said and is even farther from the facts--What the handwriting expert said was that the font dates back that far, which is altogether different--

But Juan is a prime example of someone who only hears what he wants to hear--C
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Dimsdale · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject:

Jrong Juan (LOL) should be the poster child for hypocrisy.

He never complains about Soros, Moveon.org's "nasty" commercials, big Hollyweird money, Kerry's deferments, etc., yet he will denounce and smear the SBVT with absolutely no facts or sources other than the "word" of Kerry. Just like the rest of the liberal MSM: no serious investigation of the SBVT allegations, despite documentation and signed affidavits, and no lawsuits to get Kerry to authorize the release of his full military record.

I appreciate Juan's role as Brit Hume's punching bag, but he is looking pretty bad in a journalistic sense, almost like the stereotypical "bad diversity hire." (sorry for being so "politically incorrect" but if the man simply used his brain, he would have no arguments!)
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sayoung · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: another crock

GEESH, I just watched Ellen Ratner on fox news state the whole crockumentary scandal is just a battle of dueling experts. Yikes! Maybe that explains why the DNC has such a hard time understanding the military. Last time i CHECKED(something CBS rarely does), a battle required a ratio of something more than 1 to about 35. The DNC's new angle is that serving in the Air National Guard doesn't mean you served in the air force. Since Bush apparently stated that he served in the air force in campaign literature from 78, they now are crowing that he lied then, because he was actually in the ANG, so now anything he says is suspect. Is this a DUH! moment for the Kerry campaign? Have NONE of these people served in the military? Then for the campaign to state that serving in the national guard amounted to being a moral coward and a draft dodger right before a speech at a National Guard convention. Is anyone over there not smoking crack.