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granny23 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 46
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/zforum/04/politics_dobbs082304.htm
Michael Dobbs: Kerry declined a request to talk with me about these events. His people refused to share his writings about the incident that I was attempting to reconstruct in as much detail as possible. I have been unable to get independent access to Kerry's full military record. I would describe that as "less than forthcoming."
You might argue that the Bush campaign has been "less than forthcoming" about his military record, too. I would agree with you.
I think this it. |
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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BINGO! Thanks Granny |
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DoGooder Lt.Jg.
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 102
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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This is a repeat, but I just want to make sure everyone does this.
This should be easy:
Only three emails to send out.
Here's a consolidation of the emails collected for the radio talk shows.
Please email them asking why no one is asking Kerry to address these concerns:
Heres a string of email for the morning shows:
doug@dougstephan.comt, Brendan@DougStephan.com,paulwjr@hotmail.com, gearhart@nj1015.com, SpikeODell@wgnradio.com, kevinmiller@clearchannel.com, peterboyles@clearchannel.com,kirbyw@fisherradio.com , me@glennbeck.com, dornan@talkradionetwork.com,
mike@mikeonline.com, tom@tommarr.com, scott@wday.com, becka@kfab.com, john@depetro.com,Dave@karnnewsradio.com, email@theggordonliddyshow.com, mrnmtg@kmox.com, edkfgo@aol.com,LWare@bluechipbroadcasting.com, barryyoung@clearchannel.com
Here are the afternoon talk shows.
bq@radioamerica.org, jj@jasonjarvisshow.com, rush@eibnet.com, brad@ktsa.com, radiofactor@foxnews.com, sftalk@aol.com, thedaverossshow@710kiro.com,
GloriaAllred@kabc.com, MarkTaylor@kabc.com, janet@jpamerica.com, johnandken@johnandkenshow.com, marc@wndb.am, howiecarr@wrko.com, RoeAndGarry@abc.com, rspires@wbt.com, bkrantz@wbt.com, dan@630wpro.com, chuck@hottalk1460.com, belling@inet-pc.com, BAC@compuserve.com, RustyKOH@aol.com, talkradiojim@aol.com, cccore@aol.com, larryelder@kabc.com, oger@rogerhedgecock.com, radiokatz@aol.com, brudnoy@boston.cbs.com, suggestions@lauraingraham.com , paulreveresociety@yahoo.com, les@leskinsolving.com, victor@victorboc.com, jack@ktsa.com, jim@jimbotalk.com, geneburns2@yahoo.com, bernieward2@yahoo.com
Here is the Florida Radio links:
newsradio@ccmiami.com, gerrardcampbell@clearchannel.com, johnmanzo@clearchannel.com, WOCA@woca.com, GeneLindsey@Clearchannel.com, bcrews@halllakeland.com, mike.dorwart@cox.com, ken@wftw.com
Thanks,
Do Gooder |
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larrygj Seaman
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Newcastle, Washington
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Truegrit writes:
Quote: | For the sake of our nation, I hope that one of those individuals privy to the original discharge status of John Kerry will step forward and do his or her duty to the nation, by disclosing what they know -- the direct knowledge they have -- of Kerry's first discharge and whether his meetings with the enemy, in Paris, were involved in determining his discharge status. |
I hate to be a wet blanket on this, and I hope Truegrit's wish comes true even at this late hour, but I suspect that anyone with direct knowledge brave enough to expose the truth would have come forward by now. I know there must be many people, myself included, who, if they had knowledge of this sort, would risk imprisonment if it meant saving the country from having Traitor John as its Commander in Chief. Also -- and the Dems seem to be masters at this -- couldn't an "unnamed source" have leaked the truth to the press by now, along with copies of any documents, and hope nobody would take on the press to find out his or her identity?
I think if it hasn't happened by now, it ain't gonna happen.
Let's just hope it won't matter, and that the American people will know in their hearts which candidate has the experience as CinC and the will to win the war on the Islamofascists without outsourcing our national security to the likes of Kofi Annan and Jacques Chirac. |
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Roon PO2
Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 393 Location: Lilburn, GA
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'm at a client's and can only log in quickly and must get off again. But I just thought of something, has anyone contacted Judicial Watch? Here's the contact info:
Judicial Watch, Inc.
P.O. Box 96234
Washington, DC 20077-7480
Tel: 888-JW-ETHIC
Fax: 202-646-5199
info@judicialwatch.org
Southern Regional Headquarters
100 S.E. 2nd Street
Bank of America Tower
Suite 3920
Miami, FL 33131-2148
Tel: 305-349-2391
Fax: 305-374-9054
Western Regional Headquarters
2540 Huntington Drive
Suite 201
San Marino, CA 91108-2601
Tel: 626-287-4540
Fax: 626-237-2003
Southwestern Regional Headquarters
5735 Pineland Drive, Suite 275
Dallas, TX 75231
Tel: 214-739-7188
Fax: 214-739-8873
They already have a vested interest in this case and if you get them on it, you get Newsmax on it. Good Luck! |
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jwb7605 Rear Admiral
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 690 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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larrygj wrote: | Truegrit writes:
I hate to be a wet blanket on this, and I hope Truegrit's wish comes true even at this late hour, but I suspect that anyone with direct knowledge brave enough to expose the truth would have come forward by now. I know there must be many people, myself included, who, if they had knowledge of this sort, would risk imprisonment if it meant saving the country from having Traitor John as its Commander in Chief. Also -- and the Dems seem to be masters at this -- couldn't an "unnamed source" have leaked the truth to the press by now, along with copies of any documents, and hope nobody would take on the press to find out his or her identity?
I think if it hasn't happened by now, it ain't gonna happen.
Let's just hope it won't matter, and that the American people will know in their hearts which candidate has the experience as CinC and the will to win the war on the Islamofascists without outsourcing our national security to the likes of Kofi Annan and Jacques Chirac. |
I'm also of the opinion that the only people who would "risk imprisonment" at this point are holding on to wealth, power, and careers. Had they been concerned about it, a certain Senator, it appears, would have done so many years ago, and could have done it with less risk to his future.
Instead, this particular individual is on a potential list of cabinet members, and has been named by Kerry himself as possibly a good replacement for Don Rumsfeld.
My belief is that this could turn into another "Whitewater" and/or "Lewinsky" investigation. Including oral sex, probably.
<RE this edit: "check to see if you any words out" |
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Debs Lieutenant
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 228 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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If he's not challenged, he skates.
Debbie _________________ "No greater love..." |
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P. Aaron Commander
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 322 Location: the grassy knoll
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Given this, it is likely that a legal review took place that effectively purged Mr. Kerry's Navy files and arranged for the three-year-late honorable discharge in 1978.There were two avenues during the 1977-1978 time period. This could have been under President Carter's Executive Order 11967, under which thousands received pardons and upgrades for harsh discharges or other offenses under the Selective Service Act. Or it might have merged into efforts by the military to comply with the demands of the 1975 Church Committee. Mr. Sullivan was personally involved in the 1976 and 1977 records review answering Senator Kennedy's demands to determine the scope of any counterintelligence abuses by the military. |
Jimmy Carter continues to screw us. God, what an awful President he was! _________________ A willing tool of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" since 1981. |
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mach9 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 97
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Well--just WOW. And a Harvard Law professor HAS recently come out and said something--can't remember his name (and I think it was mentioned--I'll try Free Republic). Was surprised that ANYone from Harvard would have the courage . . . |
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4moreyears Former Member
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Too bad this comes so late in the election cycle. But it would be useful in a mock trial of kerry. _________________ kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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peach Seaman Recruit
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Severna park
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I am using my daughter's screen name. I am in Md visiting from Arizona.
Today, my daughter and I drove her car through the main streets of Annapolis with the following sign taped to the back of her window: "KERRY IS A TRAITOR!" How can we get the attention of the people of the United States? Why is the FOX NETWORK not picking this up and running with it?
I have spent 22 years in the USAF and do not understand how a traitor,
a subhuman, can have the power to deceive the populace. If he is elected, I will never call him my president. I hope that all military leaders and all enlisted personnel will hand in their resignations and/or not reenlist.
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California Medical Marijuana Dispensary
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jwb7605 Rear Admiral
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 690 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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peach wrote: | I am using my daughter's screen name. I am in Md visiting from Arizona.
Why is the FOX NETWORK not picking this up and running with it?
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With the possible exception of CBS, no network is going to touch anything like this with a "ten foot pole" in order to avoid being seen as "influencing an election".
That means BOTH left and right-leaning networks. |
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MassInd Seaman
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 157
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Re: Me#1You#10
Quote: | That is helpful Granny, but what I'm looking for is a link to an online interview of Michael Dobbs conducted on the WaPo website where, I believe, Dobbs personally acknowledges that Kerry's military records presentation is incomplete. |
Here's a good article on it.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040818-121345-3874r.htm
I found it in a search for something I posted a while back re SF 180....
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5684&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=wapo
Not sure if that link will work (it's from a search).
Dobbs said he could only get 6 out more than 100 pages in the piece that ran in the Sunday WaPo trying to debunk Swifties. Sometime on Aug.22 or before. I know that article was posted in this forum somewhere.
Hope this helps.
Edit: Guess you found what you were looking for.
Here's Dobbs' original Sunday article...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html
where he states
Quote: | Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published Kerry's full military records on their Web site (with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year), they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records. A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information. A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan, said he was not authorized to release the full file, which consists of at least a hundred pages. |
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Uisguex Jack Rear Admiral
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 613
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to have just been posted on news max:
http://www.newsmax.com/
http://www.nysun.com/article/4040
Kerry's Discharge Is Questioned by an Ex-JAG Officer
BY THOMAS LIPSCOMB - Special to the Sun
November 1, 2004
Hope for momentum. |
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lewisge Seaman Recruit
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Longview, TX
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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peach:
Kerry has been saying that Bush is going to reinstate the draft if re-elected.
Kerry may actually HAVE to try and get Congress to re-instate it, because people will refuse to serve under him and will retire, resign or not re-up.
At best, my prediction is the recruitment figures would probably tank. Not good considering we are at war. People want to follow a decisive, supportive leader. _________________ USN ET-1
USS Marvin Shields (DE-1066)
1972-1978 |
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