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NortonPete · PO2 Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 385

The MSM are masters at cleverly editing a piece of footage to advance their
"agenda". ( whatever it is at that moment. )

TRUTH is something that collides and interferes with MSM's agenda.

I predict that IF this "mini-series" actually does air, it will blame the Republicans for impeaching Clinton.

And it will blame GWBush.

I'm not going to watch it.

Bait and Switch. Mark this post.

Deuce · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject:

if the Clintonista PsyOps team* were to devote as much positive energy to the war on Terrorism as the negative energy in destroying the 1st Amendment (Senate ABC letter is but one example), the Islamofascists would be on the run at last, and America would be safe from terrorism! A Nation can win a war, not so sure about a political party, guess we'll have to find out or suffer the consequences!

Deuce

*Note* (just the way I personally view it, no offense intended, tho' readers are welcome to take as much as merits internalizing Wink

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*Clintonista PsyOps Team:

Schadow · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject:

shawa · CNO Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004

Michael Scheuer sent a great suggestion to ABC News Blog Political Punch: emphasis mine

Schadow · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:07 am Post subject:

Well, the cuts weren't as bad as they could have been. They dropped Berger's hanging up on the guys in the field about to nail OBL. The scene of al Qaeda types shooting up a movie screen displaying Clinton was rumored to be cut but wasn't.

All in all, it was a pretty reasonable depiction and will not make the Dems happy. Rush was right about the movie stressing the pure evil of the terrorists.

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Doll · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:39 am Post subject:

I was not going to watch it since YouTube showed the clips that were to be cut, but my husband watched so I did end up watching along with him. You are right that it was not too bad and the cuts were not as extensive as publicized.

As far as some Dem reactions go, that is their problem, the truth is the truth. Wink

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shawa · CNO Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004

Wow! Very powerful.
Insertion of disclaimers didn't bother me.
Clinton didn't get all the cuts he wanted. They left in the Lewinsky distraction.
Mad Albright comes across as a real witch and giving pre-notification of missles to Pakistan warning Osama to get away.
Basicly a lot of risk-averse mindset by the decision makers. Tenet gets the blame.
Richard Clarke is spun as the hero know-it-all,
BUT John O'Neill was DA MAN!!

I certainly wondered what the big fuss was. It might have used some creative dialogue but the gist of it followed the 9/11 report, (which did a lot of whitewash) but it certainly showed that the laws in place had decision makers wobbling.

We'll see what Part II brings. Word is that it's a little tough on Condi and Dubya, but that comes from weasily Richard Clarke's testimony to the 911 Commission, so there's no surprise there.

Overall, I say GOOD on ABC/Disney for showing the film!
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Doll · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:58 am Post subject:

This was an interesting assessment of tonights airing of the 9/11 film from Editor and Publisher.

Snip:

BuffaloJack · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject:

I just listened to Rush's comments on the ABC editing.
Rush claims that he's seen both versions and that although edited, the remaining film that was broadcast was still fairly intact. The film still comes through as unfavorable to the former administration.

Although I've not seen the un-brooadcast version, what I did see gave me the impression that Fulbright and Berger were two of the most complete fools in Washington.

According to Rush, the one item that wasn't broadcast was the fact that Clinton would not answer his cellphone if he saw that it was Berger and simply waited to return the call until he was sure the window of opportunity for doing something had passed.
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carpro · Admin Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas

shawa · CNO Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004

Carpro, I'm well aware that the SELF-SERVING Clarke works for ABC News department, and uses that position to constantly denigrate the Bush administration because he has a personal axe to grind. He can't get over that Bush did not appoint him National Security Director. I meant to say he was portrayed as the non-hero. He was O'Neill's contact to Berger and the decision- makers, and in that he failed miserably!! He was a milquetoast when it came to convincing the higher-ups in the meetings.
And I am sure that after Part II is shown he wiil be in his glory on ABC News telling us how badly Condi and Bush failed!

I still say GOOD ON YOU, Disney and ABC Entertainment Division for showing the movie despite tremendous political pressure.

As to the biased ABC News division, for which Clarke works, there's no hope for them!!

BTW, Rush said today that he checked with his friend the writer/producer and that the total cuts equals all of ONE minute.
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I B Squidly · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject:

I noticed one edit made in production. There's a scene where Oneill/Keitel is looking over a mountain of documents caprured from a terrorists. It was useless because it was in arabic and they had no translators. Apparently Keitel couldn't believe that possible so the scene was recreated with the paper documents 'encrypted' and they're stymied for want of a cryptologist (where is Navy Chief?).
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GoophyDog · Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:59 am Post subject:

Clarke came off as a hero? I must have missed that part.

What sticks in my mind is the video conference call where Berger won't make a decision and Clarke becomes spineless in the face of having to carry responsibility. Just that one scene was enough to realize Clarke was talking the talk but refused to walk the walk if his tushy wasn't covered.

Hmm, that sort of summed up that whole administration didn't it?
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Schadow · Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:45 am Post subject:

BuffaloJack · Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: