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kmudd
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 Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject: Allawi UN address - Comment here |
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Iraq PM will address the UN in a few minutes
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Scott
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I wonder if CBS will pre-empt the soap opera this time?
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Which meens we'll be hearing from Heckle and Jeckle shortly afterwards.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Only Fox is covering it...anyone surprised? |
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neverforget
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Esteemed world statesman, Joe Lockhart, says, "I, and all of the world, could see the hands of the puppeteer, Bush, moving Allawi's mouth as he spoke."
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WSue
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| neverforget wrote: | | Esteemed world statesman, Joe Lockhart, says, "I, and all of the world, could see the hands of the puppeteer, Bush, moving Allawi's mouth as he spoke." |
My stomach is churning and blood pressure rising...Does Mr. Lockhart realize or even care that his statement will certainly reach the Iraqi people ?
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From Investor's Business Daily:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/issues.asp?v=9/25
(emphasis mine)
| Quote: | Monday, September 27, 2004
Insulting A Friend
Politics: Sen. John Kerry and his crew have proved Sen. Zell Miller right. They really will say anything to get elected, even if that means undermining a courageous ally and greasing the skids to defeat in Iraq.
It was the renegade Democrat Miller who roused the 2004 Republican convention and raised the ire of the taste police with lines like these:
"Now, while young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our commander in chief."
Strong stuff. At the time, even some on the GOP side suggested that Miller had gone too far. But after the events of the past week, we're wondering if he might not have gone far enough.
That "manic obsession" described by Miller has so consumed Kerry and his campaign aides that they don't seem to care how much harm they do to the national interest or to America's allies.
One of those allies, maybe the most important one at this point, is Iraq's interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. Allawi is a true hero, a man who has stepped forward for the hazardous mission of forming an effective Iraqi government and shepherding the nation toward democracy. Terrorists have marked him for death. Even critics of President Bush's policies owe Allawi some respect.
They owe him support as well. If he fails, Iraq would slide closer to chaos, and the danger to U.S. troops and civilians would rise accordingly. Whether the goal is to win or just get out unscathed, it would be harder to achieve.
So how did the Democratic presidential nominee show his respect and support for Allawi? By snubbing his Thursday speech to Congress (along with a number of other Democrats) and, as soon as it ended, calling him little better than a liar and a lap dog.
It was an insult as ignoble as Kerry's description of the coalition allies as "the bribed, the coerced, the bought and the extorted."
In his speech, Allawi said the situation in Iraq is less chaotic than news reports make it seem, and the country should be able to hold national elections as scheduled in January. Kerry, who has pegged his campaign on persuading the American people that the Iraq war is an unwinnable fiasco, couldn't let such optimism go unchallenged, even when it came from a man who actually lives in Iraq.
So he suggested, not so subtly, that Allawi was bending the truth just to give Bush a boost.
"The prime minister and the president are here obviously to put their best face on the (Iraq) policy," he said, "but the fact is that the CIA estimates, reporting, the ground operations and the troops all tell a different story."
That was "relatively restrained," as Los Angeles Times' Ron Brownstein noted, in comparison to what some Kerry aides were suggesting. Brownstein quoted one of them, senior adviser Joe Lockhart, as saying of the courageous Allawi: "The last thing you want to be seen as is a puppet of the United States, and you can almost see the hand underneath the shirt today moving the lips."
What might Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and our other enemies make of such comments? Kerry and Lockhart have played into their hands. To the extent that the Kerry campaign's view of Allawi gets around in Iraq, it will weaken the prime minister's government. It's never helpful to a leader to be seen as anyone's puppet, yet here's Kerry and his crew calling Allawi just that.
Are we saying that the Kerry campaign is deliberately seeking to undermine Allawi, destabilize Iraq, embolden terrorists and bring about a U.S. defeat?
No. But Kerry's insulting treatment of a key ally shows him to be irresponsible, graceless and obsessively bent on winning office at all costs. Three little words come to mind: unfit to serve. |
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Thanks for that post 3xNavy! It is so well said.
Particularily this line as you highlighted, so true!
| Quote: | Are we saying that the Kerry campaign is deliberately seeking to undermine Allawi, destabilize Iraq, embolden terrorists and bring about a U.S. defeat?
No. But Kerry's insulting treatment of a key ally shows him to be irresponsible, graceless and obsessively bent on winning office at all costs. Three little words come to mind: unfit to serve |
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Tom Poole
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Priceless, seeing the cheesy punk flippin' again, even if it is the bird.
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| Quote: | What might Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and our other enemies make of such comments? Kerry and Lockhart have played into their hands. To the extent that the Kerry campaign's view of Allawi gets around in Iraq, it will weaken the prime minister's government. It's never helpful to a leader to be seen as anyone's puppet, yet here's Kerry and his crew calling Allawi just that.
Are we saying that the Kerry campaign is deliberately seeking to undermine Allawi, destabilize Iraq, embolden terrorists and bring about a U.S. defeat?
No. But Kerry's insulting treatment of a key ally shows him to be irresponsible, graceless and obsessively bent on winning office at all costs. Three little words come to mind: unfit to serve. |
I guess Kerry is running out of communists to support against a Republican administration.
I wonder if his picture will someday hang in the "Islamic Terrorist Museum" that will likely be built in Mecca?
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army72
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Did those idiots insult the leader of a foreign country just for their own political gain? Allawi is an ALLY of ours. To make him out to be a patsy is really an insult. Imagine the cooperation he'll give if Kerry gets elected!! I think there are some very serious character flaws being shown to the world by Kerry.
I don't know how he plans on getting support from other countries but that is not a good way to start!!
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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000
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Kerry has attacked the saudis and the iraqis. i dont care for the saudis either but they supply the US with oil and are in the same boat as the US facing AQ. this gimp kerry is burning bridges with our allies so he can sell out to the french?
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4moreyears
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kerry would like to see Iraq dissintegrate...that way he could say "See Bush was wrong"...and then he'd cut a deal with the French and a new contract of food for oil scam.
Hey! With leadership like kerry who needs enemies.
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jimlarsen
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Actually I think Kerry wants to send some of the Iraqui megabuck action to his cousin, the one that got a nice contract with the Viet Nam Communists. Let there be no mistake in understanding John Kerry: He would sell his soul, if he had one, to prove Bush is wrong.
Kerry said that he would bring our troups home in 6 months if he's elected, a clear invitation for the terrorists to step up fighting to help defeat The President.
Kerry's sister went to Australia to talk them out of electing a government that's willing to help us in Iraq.
And then Kerry denigrated Iraq's interrim prime minister, fostering anti-American feelings around the Middle East, and possibly affecting Iraqi support for their new government.
The man continues to be a traitor. And some want to make him our leader. There are some interesting discussions in other threads on this board about the psychological implications of Kerry's actions. In a nutshell the conclusion of experts is that he belongs, well, in a nut shell. |
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