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jim_nyc · Seaman Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 198

"Other Kerry supporters have said that Mr. Kerry's anti-war activities — including a trip he made to Paris to meet with both sides of the conflict — was an effort to help prisoners of war like Mr. Galanti".

The above is a quote from todays Washington Times story regarding the current Swift Boat/Pow's ad.

The obvious next step is an ad that exposes Kerry (the senator) for his utter lack of regard for the plight of POW's and MIA's in Vietnam. His efforts to sweep the issue under the carpet is one of the few visable accomplishments in the Senate. Even the far left leaning NYC "Village Voice" can recognize that.

This is a "target rich" environment which includes loose associations to big money contracts for Kerry's "fellow travelers" when he pushed for normalization with Vietnam despite continued insistance and compelling evidence that there maybe POW's still being held captive.

It's not my intention to be insenstive, exploitive or rub salt in open wounds but recently remains of an MIA in Korea where found.
It just seems to me that we as a people should demand of our government that they exhaust all possiblities that none of our soldiers be left behind.

neverforget · Vice Admiral Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875

He did not meet with both sides of the conflict. He met with both of the Communist delegations, the so-called Democratic Republic of Viet Nam (North Vietnamese) and the Viet Cong. He lied then, and his campaign is lying now.
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jim_nyc · Seaman Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 198

RMalloy · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 280

noc · PO1 Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Dublin, CA

From John Kerry's 1971 testimony before congress:

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Testimony

The CHAIRMAN. You have been very eloquent about the reasons why we should proceed as quickly as possible. Are you familiar With some of the proposals before this committee?

Mr. KERRY. Yes, I am, Senator.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you support or do you have any particular views about any one of them you wish to give the committee?

Mr. KERRY. My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I woUld like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.

I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that.

As to the argument concerning the danger to our troops were we to withdraw or state that we would, they have also said many times in conjunction with that statement that all of our troops, the moment we set a date, Will be given safe conduct out of Vietnam. The only other important point is that we allow the South Vietnamese people to determine their own future and that ostensibly is what we have been fighting for, anyway.

I would, therefore, submit that the most expedient means of getting out of South Vietnam would be for the President of the United States to declare a cease-fire, to stop this blind commitment to a dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime, accept a coalition regime which would represent all the political forces of the country which is in fact what a representative government is supposed to do and which is in fact what this Government here in this country purports to do, and pull the troops out without losing one more American, and still further without losing the South Vietnamese.

RMalloy · PO3 Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 280

What are the exact dates, Mr. Kerry, that you went to Paris to meet with the representatives of the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong? The answer to
this question has been long overdue, Mr. Kerry.

Steve Z · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject: Date for Withdrawal

Kerry, in 1971, said of Vietnam: "I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that."

http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2004-09/14455239.pdf

According to the LA Times poll in the link above (Question 51), when asked,

"Do you think President Bush should set a definite date for the withdrawal of all troops from Iraq?",

Likely voters 65% do NOT set date
27% Set a definite date

Democrats 48% do NOT set date
41% Set a definite date

Kerry is already on record as stating that he would withdraw the troops from Iraq within 6 months (although he has backtracked since then). Nearly 2/3 of all voters, and nearly half of Democrats are opposed to setting a date, and Kerry already set a date both for Vietnam AND for Iraq.

Could a SBVT ad be made to paint Kerry as the "cut and run" candidate, based on his own words in 1971 and 2004?

Based on polls by both Rasmussen and the LA Times, Kerry's position is a clear loser on this issue, even among people in his own party!
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