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PC
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Joined: 29 Aug 2004
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Location: Southern California
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 Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:04 pm Post subject: I Still Have Some Liberal friends |
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Today I received the following from a liberal friend who I try MY BEST to drive crazy. The title of the email was: MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY
Typical stuff from a koolaider along the lines that Bush and Cheney are the bad guys, not those Islanic Fascists
| Quote: | Over the weekend Chuck Bowden ("Blood Orchid," "Down by the River")
spoke at
a small gathering in Tucson, AZ:
I am the odd man out at a political rally. I love my country, love the
bad
coffee, weak beer and menacing use of the frying pan. But I seem to
flunk in
simple partisan allegiances--being essentially a tree hugger with
numerous guns
and a thirst for wine and a lust for disreputable venues. Recently a
slick New
York magazine, GQ, a rag basically devoted to helping men understand
the deep
meaning of brown shoes, asked me to prepare a reading list for the next
president of the United States. As a patriot, I was happy to comply. In
the midst
off this sacred task, I wrote a definition of my country I will now
share with
you: Think of a bible wrapped with garter belt with a loaded gun as the
bookmarker.
Normally, I consider both political parties, at best, criminal gangs.
I vote religiously but I refuse to believe. And I tend to agree with
Henry
Adams, the grandson and great-grandson of presidents, who once said a
congressman is a hog and you take a stout stick and whack 'em on the
snout. But then
Mark Twain said they were our only hereditary criminal class.
Also, once, when I was a real person, I taught American history in an
honest-to-God university and from that background I know that bad times
and bad ideas
and bad choices have often confronted the people of this nation. We
started
out claiming some of our fellow countrymen were three-fifths of a
person, we
started out claiming the girls were too addled to vote, we endured
human bondage
for close to 80 years, we tolerated Jim Crow for another century, we
slaughtered native Americans, we crushed early union efforts. We have
spilled blood.
We have done great things and we have done mean things. And all of this
has
made us who and what we are.
So what is so special about this election at this moment?
Fear.
We've lost our way. We no longer face facts. We prefer to fabricate
them.
The Healthy Forest Initiative is not based on facts. The scorn of
Global
Warming is not based on facts. The war in Iraq is not based on facts.
The Patriots
Act is not based on facts. The Office of Homeland Security is not based
on
facts. And the sound bites of this election are not based on facts.
We now have a government with the mentality of a gated community.
And this is repellent to me and lethal to all of us.
We can't solve any problems unless we ask honest questions.
So I've crawled out of my cave for this rally, ill suited as I am to
being a
cheerleader.
This election matters because we must honestly face the consequences of
global trade, illegal immigration, the sacking of our public lands, the
destruction
of our Bill of Rights and the growing international hatred of our flag
and
passport.
This election matters because terrorism will never take out us out;
only we
can destroy ourselves.
This election matters because bile and hatred are fatal to public
discussion
and public discussion is essential to a decent society.
This election is not about John Kerry and John Edwards, who seemed to
be
decent folk with extraordinary hair when I tagged along with them in
Iowa last
summer and fall.
This election is about this administration and the greed and toxin it
has
pumped into the veins of this nation.
This election is about the new legal drug this administration pushes:
fear.
In a real sense this election is non-partisan; it is not about being
liberal
or conservative. My God, what real liberal or conservative would ever
sanction
the Patriot Act? What liberal or conservative would sanction false
information about weapons of mass destruction? What liberal or
conservative thinks the
torture chambers we created in Baghdad were right and proper?
What I am driving at was said a long time ago by someone I've always
paid
heed to:
"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means
shall we
fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant,
to
step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of
Europe, Asia and
Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth . . . in their
military
chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a
drink from
the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand
years.
At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I
answer, if it
ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad.
If
destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.
As a nation
of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."
---"The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler,
Volume I,
"Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum,of Springfield, Illinois
(January 27,
1838), p. 109.
Well, I agree with Mr. Lincoln, our first Republican president.
And I'm not up for suicide.
This election matters because this country matters and it must return
to path
of law, decency, courage and compassion.
I don't have any simple answers to global trade murdering jobs here, or
to
illegal immigration storming across my desert, or to how to undo a
century of
fire suppression in my national forests, or how to stop men and women
from
sacrificing their lives to kill us. And I'm open to discussion on these
points.
But I want facts, I want honesty, I want a fair debate. I want love of
country not hatred of my fellow countrymen.
No more fear.
Vote as if it matters.
This time it does.
As my late friend Edward Abbey once noted, "A patriot must always be
ready to
defend his country from his government."
----------------------------Charles Bowden. September 12, 2004. |
A quick Google search revealed that this speech was given at a Kerry fund raiser.
But see how these clever lefties work? Somewhere along the way that fact was dropped and changed to simply a "small gathering." But it made my response so easy. I simply replied:
No wonder it was a small gathering, it was a Kerry fundraiser. |
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buffman
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Joined: 21 Aug 2004
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Uh, didn't we get attacked back in Sep , 2001?
FACT:
The world's a changing jack, radical Islam is worse than Communism, decent folk don't lie about their combat brethren, Beslan did happen, can't hide in the closet and say "make it go away" 100 times and it's gone,
FACT---we are at war.
FACT---we will win, we have to
FACT---The truth, something the Dems threw out with the bath water a long time ago.
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jataylor11
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Joined: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 856
Location: Woodbridge, Virginia
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Torture chambers we created in Iraq?
Oh yes, the panties on the head and dog collars ---
at least these criminal/terrorists --- they weren't in prison because they were bad dressers --- at least these criminal/terrorists have necks and heads for panties and dog collars ---
It angers me so much when I hear this crap --- nothing happened at Abu Gharib that doesn't mirror some fraternity or sorority initiation prank----
no one died --- no one was physically harmed --
So some terrorists were sexually humuliated --- Big F******G Deal. 3,000 people died on Sept. 11; 26 more American civilians have been murdered in Iraq
The rape rooms, acid baths, and human chipper/shreaders of Saddam are gone.
I'm sorry but these people are so misguided it crosses into insanity |
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shadowy
Commander
Joined: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 301
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I'm sure Lincoln never expected so many Americans to be so obtuse that they would take this wonderful quote to mean simply that our enemies were too weak ever to threaten our survival, and that only we could destroy ourselves.
Lincoln wasn't dumb enough to think that no enemy nation or group of nations would ever exceed us in power. He just knew that those that might could only do it by building their strength the same way we built ours. They would have to crave and struggle and die for freedom and justice. They would have to respect the rule of law and the rights of man. They would have to look to God, not government, as their source and ultimate authority. Then they, too, would prosper and grow, and they would be no threat to us.
The threat is that some of our own people think and act like the loser nations that could never overpower us if we stayed united against all tyranny and oppression. The threat is that they undermine our will, our morale, and our purpose. They sympathise with our enemy, willing to attack from behind while we face him.
We should all be vehemently opposed to an ideology that does not tolerate religious freedom, subjugates women, practices racism, and seeks world domination. If we can't unite to destroy that before it destroys us, then we may see the end just as Lincoln predicted. It would come because too many of us did not love freedom more than comfort. |
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