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NavyChief
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: Mappers meet me here Reply with quote

Those with superior mapping skills please discuss important issues with me here.

- Chief
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poseidon
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do we need ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM me because I don't want to show my hand to the unfriendlies.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me a few minutes to digest all the maps I'm getting. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh heh heh... there may be enough "nosies" gathered round to keep the unfriendlies from seeing the map table. Wink

Jusssst kidding - you work on what you need to work on and we "nosies" will just wait with bated breath. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NavyChief: I don't know what you're up to, but if your previous work is any indication, it'll be good. You done the right thing by keeping it secret.
Whatever mission you're on, Godspeed !!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a GUY and I don't NEED maps!

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NavyChief
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. This is probably easier to do this in open forum Wink

All you guys are great but I can't keep track of all the PMs.


Can someone/anyone/everyone plot the following for me please.

(a) VQ 35 94

(b) VQ 64 78

(c) WQ 798 666

Now. Distance between (c) and (b). Distance between (b) and (a). Distance between (c) and (a).

I know it's cryptic but you guys know me by now. I'll spill when the time is right Wink

As you can see, I suck at mapping. I just want as close as possible (good enough for government work).

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Twas the night before Christmas,....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NavyChief wrote:
Okay. This is probably easier to do this in open forum Wink

All you guys are great but I can't keep track of all the PMs.


Can someone/anyone/everyone plot the following for me please.

(a) VQ 35 94

(b) VQ 64 78

(c) WQ 798 666

Now. Distance between (c) and (b). Distance between (b) and (a). Distance between (c) and (a).

I know it's cryptic but you guys know me by now. I'll spill when the time is right Wink

As you can see, I suck at mapping. I just want as close as possible (good enough for government work).

- Chief


Chief

Its been a while since I worked with the Military Grid but ...
I think the following should work

< Someone will correct me if I am wrong Wink >

# Python script used
#
# locations in meters from VQ 00
# expressed as 2D vectors
>>> A = [35000, 94000] # VQ 35 94
>>> B = [64000, 78000] # VQ 64 78
>>> C = [179800, 66600] # WQ 798 666

# compute differance vectors
# Vec2 = [ deltaX, deltaY ]
>>> cb = [ C[0]-B[0], C[1]-B[1] ]
>>> ba = [ B[0]-A[0], B[1]-A[1] ]
>>> ca = [ C[0]-A[0], C[1]-A[1] ]

# compute distances in meters
# lengthVec2 = sqrt(x**2 + y**2)
>>> CB = sqrt(cb[0]*cb[0] + cb[1]*cb[1])
>>> BA = sqrt(ba[0]*ba[0] + ba[1]*ba[1])
>>> CA = sqrt(ca[0]*ca[0] + ca[1]*ca[1])

# print distances in kilometers
>>> print "CB = %.3f km"%(CB/1000)
CB = 116.360 km

>>> print "BA = %.3f km"%(BA/1000)
BA = 33.121 km

>>> print "CA = %.3f km"%(CA/1000)
CA = 147.370 km
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No wonder this LRRP was always asking how many klicks it was back to base camp!

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TEWSPilot
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a typo? Shouldn't the first entry be 798000, not 1798000?

>>> C = [179800, 66600] # WQ 798 666

...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TEWSPilot wrote:
Is this a typo? Shouldn't the first entry be 798000, not 1798000?

>>> C = [179800, 66600] # WQ 798 666

...


Not a typo but it could easily be a mistake.

Note that in my computation these coordinates are all
relative to VQ 00 and WQ 00 is IIRC 100 km east of VQ 00

It has been close to 40 years since I last used a Military Grid
though so I posted the method of obtaining my results
so that others can easily double check them:-)
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pelican223
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Mappers meet me here Reply with quote

RE: Those with superior mapping skills please discuss important issues with me here.

Chief,

Being an Army Aviator, I never get lost; I just get misoriented.
If I may be of help, please advise. Also an Information Systems geek in my current life if that helps any.

Also have access to maps in SE Asia. See pointer on my Web Site.

Cheers,
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rbshirley
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NavyChief wrote:
Can someone/anyone/everyone plot the following for me please.
(a) VQ 35 94
(b) VQ 64 78
(c) WQ 798 666



......... Revised Chart presented in a later post ........


Distance A to B: Approx 33 km
Distance B to C: Approx 90 km {Air Route}
Distance B to C: Approx 150 km (via sea around Ca Mau)

Distance C to A: A-B plus B-C ... your choice of route

Be it far from me to question a spook chief's reading of
co-ordinates from message traffic ... how-some-ever

Those sure are widely separated locations. (esp B to C)

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