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Rdtf CNO
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:59 am Post subject: Just on CNN Headline news- UN sd. weapons were on satellite |
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This could be big - I couldn't believe my eyes- just posted on CNN Headline news - an obscure news brief mentioned something like 'UN Report states that weapons or nuclear materials were once seen on satellite and now are missing... I have been trying to catch it again but haven't yet-
I found a report from June that I have posted in forums before that has received no MSM play until now. Could be what they are referring to??...
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html
UN inspectors: Saddam shipped out WMD before war and after
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004
The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.
The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.
The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
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UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the council on June 9 that "the only controls at the borders are for the weight of the scrap metal, and to check whether there are any explosive or radioactive materials within the scrap," Middle East Newsline reported.
"It's being exported," Perricos said after the briefing. "It's being traded out. And there is a large variety of scrap metal from very new to very old, and slowly, it seems the country is depleted of metal."
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.
He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.
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Tuesday, August 26, 2003 : Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley
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The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters – the latter required for the production of chemical and biological warheads.
"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Ewen Buchanan, Perricos's spokesman, said. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax."
The UNMOVIC report said Iraqi missiles were dismantled and exported to such countries as Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey. In the Dutch city of Rotterdam, an SA-2 surface-to-air missile, one of at least 12, was discovered in a junk yard, replete with UN tags. In Jordan, UN inspectors found 20 SA-2 engines as well as components for solid-fuel for missiles.
"The problem for us is that we don't know what may have passed through these yards and other yards elsewhere," Buchanan said. "We can't really assess the significance and don't know the full extent of activity that could be going on there or with others of Iraq's neighbors."
UN inspectors have assessed that the SA-2 and the short-range Al Samoud surface-to-surface missile were shipped abroad by agents of the Saddam regime. Buchanan said UNMOVIC plans to inspect other sites, including in Turkey.
In April, International Atomic Energy Agency director-general Mohammed El Baradei said material from Iraqi nuclear facilities were being smuggled out of the country.
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Anker-Klanker Admiral
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Richardson, TX
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:15 am Post subject: |
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From the little I've seen, IT'S BIG, alright. And I've already seen some small evidence of the dark side trying to spin it.
As they say "story developing." Stay tuned. |
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Wing Wiper Rear Admiral
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 664 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Right now you're seeing the Republicans catching John Kerry and the liberals with both feet firmly inserted in their mouths. Ya gotta love it. This is the beginning volley in the "October Surprise", I would have to think. |
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Anker-Klanker Admiral
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Son of a VET Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 791 Location: TN
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:34 am Post subject: |
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October suprise? _________________
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Son of a VET Master Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Ok, Iraq had no WMD's. So what the he11 do you call stuff to build NUKES! They left can't have it both ways.
Quote: | UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Equipment and materials that could be used to make nuclear weapons are disappearing from Iraq but neither Baghdad nor Washington appears to have noticed, the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency reported on Monday.
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Armybrat/Armymom Commander
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 335 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Ditto that SoaV |
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Rdtf CNO
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:54 am Post subject: |
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This is good news, but I think nothing will change unless they can prove they were all built and ready to roll. The liberals have managed to convince half of America that being 'close' isn't worthy enough. How close is close enough? One part missing? One guy that does the final test needs to come back from vacation? The libs say there was a rush to war...We tried to get in there for 10 years to merely dismantle and destroy what Sadaam was making. He refused our efforts, so we had to do what we did - force our way in and in the process that meant removing his evil a**. |
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Son of a VET Master Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | How close is close enough? |
Kerry can tell you that. Hint: rice. _________________
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Rdtf CNO
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:58 am Post subject: |
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shawa CNO
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:18 am Post subject: |
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This could be bad.
This news is coming from Reuters and CNN (Leftist Anti-American).
They are saying this was equipment and material that U.N. Inspectors
Dismantled and tagged years ago. In other words we already knew
it was there. Inspectors were forced to leave Iraq. After we invaded Iraq. the U.S. {i.e Bush Administration) barred the return of inspectors
after the war, preventing IAEA from keeping tabs on this equipment
and materials. U.S. occupation authority and then the new Interim Government of Iraq were responsible for it. Raises question whether
they--i.e. Bush administration were unable to monitor this site.
This is now at U.N. Security Councill (i.e. our good friends- France,
Germany, et al).
They are going to slam President Bush for another screw-up.
I can hear it now. I think they will say its Bush's fault.
I only pray that I am wrong. |
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directorblue Lt.Jg.
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 121
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Post subject: |
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shawa wrote: | This could be bad.
This news is coming from Reuters and CNN (Leftist Anti-American).
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Let's see. Why, oh why, would the UN want to embarass the Bush administration?
My take is this is payback for the Duelfer report and the immense UNscam scandal.
Take it with a grain of salt. _________________ http://directorblue.blogspot.com - click for various missives on the folly of John Kerry's candidacy. |
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scotty61 LCDR
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 419 Location: Glyndon MN
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Is Kerry going to have to say; I knew there were WMDs before I knew there weren't WMDs before I knew there really were WMDs. I can see Imus banging his head on the jukebox again already. |
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rb325th Admiral
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:33 am Post subject: |
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This is CNN doing their part to recycle an old News Story with the intent of making the President look bad.
It in fact does and does not. On the one hand it is an admission that Saddam had the capability to produce or at least some of the equipment required to build WMD/Nukes. (While the whole Left and World screams he had nothing to begin with)
On the other hand, if things dissapeared AFTER we took Iraq, then the Army screwed up, thus it can be blamed on Bush.
Though there is some writing there that things were being removed before and during the War. _________________ U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT |
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twicearound PO2
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 362 Location: San Antonio
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Isn't it interesting, CNS brings out the 42 pages showing Iraq with WMD and connected to terrorist and not a peep, barely a peep from our side and now they (MSM) are singing about this with what we can see as a potential of a Bush failure. Sorry guys, I don't trust anything that comes via the UN, CNN that might pass through France and Germany. These countries have a little payback they might like to inflict along with the UN. _________________ twicearound |
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