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Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1235 Location: Kansas (Transplanted Texan)
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: "Mutiny" in Iraq is a setup |
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Please help spread the word. If the Kerry/DNC traitors have set up a "mutiny" during war, this truly is TREASON, and hard jail time should be meted out...firing squads are too "insensitive" these days. [picked up from FACNET Yahoo Groups]
Friends,
Please be aware of this. It's looking more and more like the left is playing right out of the Vietnam vets Against the War playbooks. This type propaganda, using today's troops, shouldn't be accepted. Spread the word if you can to various news organizations, weblogs or any republican voices who might expose this (yeah, I won't hold my breath either).
Laura
This is a post from
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1247815/posts
The earlier thread about the October Surprise "Mutiny" hit piece on this mornings Today show prompted me to do some Googling to try to see if there were any connections of note. I felt that even the little evidence I found warranted a quick heads up and (forgive me) a separate thread as a call to action. I have no particular standing to do this, but this concerned me enough to fire off a flare.
It looks like the extreme left is orchestrating an October Surprise propaganda campaign against the war in Iraq and President Bush by staging a "mutiny" of reserve troops (appears to be 5 of 'em, when you get down to it) and playing it the way they played Abu Gharib.
First, the basic story. Reports surfaced on Friday, the 15th, that troops in Iraq had refused a "suicide mission" and were under arrest and held in close guard. A small handful of "frantic" family members began reporting "unfair practices" and "unsafe conditions," desperately calling on (the usual suspects) politicians to save their loved ones from cruel fate.
Some excerpts:
Daily News, October 17, 2004:
'All of us refused to go'
Calls, E-mails explain troops' alleged mutiny
The military has begun punishing some of the 19 Army reservists who balked at what they called a "suicide mission" and a "death sentence" in Iraq last week.
Some members of the South Carolina-based 343rd Quartermaster Company refused to transport fuel between the Iraqi cities of Tallil and Taji Wednesday morning, saying they had no protection for the dangerous trip.
now here's the kicker from the Daily News piece:
Citizen Soldier, a New York-based, nonprofit military rights group, has offered ... its help.
Citizen Soldier is not a "military rights group." It is a virulently anti-American and anti-Military extreme left front group. Their motto on their web site is: "Prepared to Challenge U.S. Militarism in the New Millenium."
Citizen Soldier also has close ties to John Kerry, as it's director Tod Ensign, was one of the organizers of Kerry's discredited Winter Soldier propaganda event in 1969, along with Jeremy Rifkin. This connection is the one that set off my alarm bells.
I couldn't figure the Mississippi angle till I found this in The Clarion-Ledger of Hattiesberg, Mississippi:
Platoon with Mississippi soldiers defies orders 17 soldiers placed under arrest in Iraq
A 17-member Army Reserve platoon with troops from Jackson and around the Southeast deployed to Iraq is under arrest for refusing a "suicide mission" to deliver fuel, the troops' relatives said Thursday. The soldiers refused an order on Wednesday to go to Taji, Iraq - north of Baghdad - because their vehicles were considered "deadlined" or extremely unsafe, said Patricia McCook of Jackson, wife of Sgt. Larry O. McCook.
and again, buried in the piece, is the clue to the source and spin:
U.S. Rep. Bennie Thompson said he plans to submit a congressional inquiry today on behalf of the Mississippi soldiers to launch an investigation into whether they are being treated improperly.
Bennie Thompson is one of the more radical members of the Black Caucus. He is a leader in the "fair play for Fidel Castro" movement in Congress. He is often the designated "hit man" in attacking minority members of the Bush Administration, particularly Dr. Condoleezza Rice. He was a rabid Deaniac, but shifted his loyalty to Kerry when Dean fell on his own scream.
The Salon hit piece ties this squarely to the Washington/DNC/Carville slime machine:
Revolt in the ranks in Iraq
The inside story of the Army platoon that refused to carry out a "death sentence" mission.
is by Mary Jocoby, Salon's Washington Correspondent. Jacoby is one of Salon's "reliable" writers who can always be counted on to spew hate at George Bush, in particular, and Republicans in general. She rates Seymour Hersh as a "crack investigative reporter" and has authored anti-Bush hit pieces such as "The Dunce," "George W. Bush's Missing Year" and "Swaggering toward Election Day."
What is truly amazing about these pieces on the "mutiny" is that they appear to have been ready to go before the incident took place. These folks had their stories straight and remarkably consistent in record time, even before the news had reached the regular news cycle on CNN, who jumped on this in record time.
Folks, this is a set up. But it's a set up that, like many of the Kerry camps dirty tricks, they've had to fire off prematurely to try to distract the news media from a Kerry gaffe. Pulling the trigger on this was timed to try and keep the disastrous Mary Cheney attack off of the Sunday morning talk shows. These soldiers are pawns who were told that they would be used to unseat a sitting President (with undoubted hints of vast rewards from a Kerry administration) but they are being sacrificed, just like pushing a pawn, to protect the Democrats' king. |
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rparrott21 Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 760 Location: Mckinney, Texas
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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As long as the Dems. win, they could care less about America... |
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Anker-Klanker Admiral
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Richardson, TX
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Damn, I thought there was a horribly rotten smell about that story when it first appeared. If this is true, then I'm crossing my fingers that the whole truth will come out soon. |
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next generation Seaman Recruit
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 46
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I thought the report I read of this on AOL News (there's a conservative group!) sounded remarkable canned. It definitely seemed like the soldiers involved were deliberately playing to a sympathetic press.
What I found interesting was that the piece didn't mention when the actual refusal to follow orders took place. There were only rather hysterical accusations that the soldiers were being "guarded at gunpoint", a detail which the military strongly denies. The soldiers were never detained, only told not to leave their unit's area until they were questioned.
Apparently, most of these soldiers, while allegedly being "held against their will", were able to call friends and family in the states and tell them to make a big noise about it, call anyone they had to, "this is big".
What is also never mentioned is the fact that soldiers don't exactly have the right to pick and choose which assignments they're willing to accept. You either follow orders, or get court martialed! The response from the military thus far has been extremely tempered, and I wonder if they don't already know that this was a set up. If they came down hard on these people, the military would look like the bad guys, sending innocent soldiers to certain doom. At this point, there is no hard evidence that the perpetrators have been disciplined at all, other than disbanding them into other units, when the military certainly could choose to severely discipline them. It seems in this instance that discretion is the better part of valor. |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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While there may or may not be some merit in this, let's not go off half cocked on speculative matters.
Personally, I think what happened is being grossly exaggerated and is more or less an isolated incident, as reported this morning.
Due to the speculative nature of this charge, I'm going to lock this thread, at least until or unless some definitive proof is revealed.
Let's get them on provable things, not speculation. _________________ Clark County Conservative |
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