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shawa
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 Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject: SMEAR IN CHRISTIAN CHATROOMS???? |
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A friend of mine spends time in a Christian chatroom and told me that yesterday a woman told her that she would NOT vote for Bush because "he paid for an abortion for a girlfriend."
I know that this is a smear technique of the Kerry campaign and
just wonder how much it is happening.
Do any of you visit Christian chatrooms? Is this smear tactic prevalent? |
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Mary Ann Parker
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:06 pm Post subject: TELL YOUR FRIEND TO LOOK/READ HERE FIRST!!! |
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Tell your friend as a Christian she is obligated to discern
the spirIt and veracity of something.
She can start here. When I get time I will post more for
her.
Love her and inform her gently.
God will do the rest.
Make it a great day.
Mary Ann Parker
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hammondb3
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You might also tell your friend that based upon that 'theology', all of the Pauline Epistles need to be thrown out along with the books of Moses and anything David wrote or did after Bathsheba.
I suspect that the original 'chatter' was a plant and your friend was his/her 'mark'.
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shawa
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Thanks for the link, Mary Ann.
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As a Catholic myself, I have been outraged every time I see John Kerry
put his hand on his chest and proclaim "I am a Catholic, but I defend a woman's right to choose."
It is my belief that if I were to vote for any politician who supports
abortion rights, then by that vote, I take the sin of abortion on MY soul
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difficultfish
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:57 pm Post subject: christian chatrooms |
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The information about GWB providing an abortion for his girlfriend was in the Kitty Kelly book. Not exactly a beacon for truth.
I visit a few Christian chatrooms and find they overwhemingly support Bush.
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azTrish
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: SMEAR IN CHRISTIAN CHATROOMS???? |
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| shawa wrote: | A friend of mine spends time in a Christian chatroom and told me that yesterday a woman told her that she would NOT vote for Bush because "he paid for an abortion for a girlfriend."
I know that this is a smear technique of the Kerry campaign and
just wonder how much it is happening.
Do any of you visit Christian chatrooms? Is this smear tactic prevalent? |
You and others can address any such statement with simple logic, too.
One question are you questioning the campaign or the nonsense of the woman's logic? Not vote for Bush, as opposed to a democratic ticket that advocates abortion at any term. ( I know there is no paid for abortion, but to excuse that as reason not to vote for him, IF this person believed it, is an onxymoronic act)
One should foremost call into question a supposed Christian who repeats so openly, for others to see, what should be construed as gossip, without referring the room to a an un-impeachable source for such a non christian statement.
If anyone ( the not voting for Bush woman ) allows themselves to be that easily mis-led well, pray the next person to show up in a chat room doesn't portend to be an angel and God told him, to tell them all, to Vote for Kerry???
Oops did I give the Libs an idea?
Trish .. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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This was advocated many months ago by the musician Moby - word for word!
See this thread:
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=780&highlight=moby
| Quote: | One of Sen. John Kerry's celebrity supporters is ready to pull out all the stops to get him elected. Republicans are shrieking over a suggestion by rocker Moby that Democrats spread gossip about President Bush on the Internet. "No one's talking about how to keep the other side home on Election Day," Moby tells us. "It's a lot easier than you think and it doesn't cost that much. This election can be won by 200,000 votes."
Moby suggests that it's possible to seed doubt among Bush's far-right supporters on the Web.
"You target his natural constituencies," says the Grammy-nominated techno-wizard. "For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion.
"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"
Moby didn't claim that he believed the abortion story. |
News article, here:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/162659p-142554c.html
Please refer the other participants in the Christian chat rooms to this thread and to that news article. People can google for "Moby abortion Bush" and get thousands of links and see that what these disrupters are doing was advocated back before Feb 08 of this year.
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Aristotle The Hun
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: TELL YOUR FRIEND TO LOOK/READ HERE FIRST!!! |
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| Mary Ann Parker wrote: | Tell your friend as a Christian she is obligated to discern
the spirIt and veracity of something.
She can start here. When I get time I will post more for
her.
Love her and inform her gently.
God will do the rest.
Make it a great day.
Mary Ann Parker
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http://www.defide.com/
VATICAN RESPONSE IN KERRY HERESY CASE
This is what Kerry's CHURCH THINKS OF HIM. |
I just experinced your wisdom in another thread. I move to this thread and here you are again being wise once more. Hmmm.
Maybe thou hast wisdom of which the world knoweth not.
Sam
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Kimmymac
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Unbelievable. Disgusting. Vile. Will they stop at nothing? They fight like cornered demons. They rage like hell itself.
Huh.
I wonder why that is?
I am always awed by the depth of knowledge of the issues and the astute, on-target responses made in these forums. Mary Ann Parker, and Navy.3, you are awesome.
Isaiah 54:17 begins: "But no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment shall show to be in the wrong."
I claim that for the President every day, because every day hell itself renews its attack on him. And I have some bad news for hell and its minions: Every single day millions of Christians are fasting and praying for the President and this election. So: I see your 200 thousand votes, and I raise you a landslide.
Screw the lying freaks. They can all comfort each other in hell on November 3rd. And we all know from scripture how much comfort can be found there.
Here is one for the terminally and perpetually ignorant and adolesent who are behind this transparent garbage: Bush rules. Kerry drools.
GOOOOOOooooo DUBYA!! |
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Aristotle The Hun
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"Screw the lying freaks."
Yup. Real Christians really do talk like that. Some of the Un-real Christians have a problem with language like that, but it is music to my ears.
Sam
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Mary Ann Parker
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:32 pm Post subject: Hey "ARI" You Appreciate Art Also!! Ha Ha |
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My Dear Mr. Hun,
Now you know that there is a little "Elmer Gantry" in most
Christians!!
All of us are bi-lingual to some degree.
We speak varying degrees of "Dirty" and "Clean".
Some are even creative with it.
Now I think Kimmy is the exact opposite of Kerry.
She is as "wide open as a butcher knife".
No wobble in her a'tall.
I always feel the catharsis for myself when Kimmy goes
off. 
I love you Kimmy. 
And I still say...If you ordered a truckload of A...holes,
and only John Kerry showed up, you would NOT be
short loaded!!!
Let's make sure we don't order any in November!!
Make it a get out the vote kinda day.
Mary Ann Parker |
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kmudd
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: SMEAR IN CHRISTIAN CHATROOMS???? |
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| shawa wrote: | A friend of mine spends time in a Christian chatroom and told me that yesterday a woman told her that she would NOT vote for Bush because "he paid for an abortion for a girlfriend."
I know that this is a smear technique of the Kerry campaign and
just wonder how much it is happening.
Do any of you visit Christian chatrooms? Is this smear tactic prevalent? |
There is no proof that Bush paid for a GF to have an abortion . If she did have an abortion there is no legal way Bush could have stopped her . And there is no legal way he could have made her have an abortion. Do the liberals who make this charge against Bush want the father of the unborn baby to be able to stop an abortion ? If not what did they want Bush to do ? I am pro-life and always have been. But there are a lot of pro-lifers such as Bernard Nathenson who were former pro-aborts. Nathenson was the co-founder of NARAL and was a big time abortionist. But now he is a famous pro-lifer. So even if Bush was a pro-abort then does not mean he can't have changed his ways and now found Christ and is pro-life.
Susan Estrich is one of the libs making this charge against Bush. She claims it is true when there is no proof of it.But she claims all the women who spoke out and said Clinton fondled, asked to have sex with or even raped (Juanita Broadrick) are all lying sluts. But she pretends to be horrified if someone whispers that some unnamed GF of Bush had an abortion some 30 or so years ago.Horrified by something that Susan Estrich is a big defender of and even says she had abortions. I hate abortions but don't be fooled by a pro-abort acting shocked over abortions. |
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FirstKlassAct
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:03 am Post subject: Re: SMEAR IN CHRISTIAN CHATROOMS???? |
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| shawa wrote: | A friend of mine spends time in a Christian chatroom and told me that yesterday a woman told her that she would NOT vote for Bush because "he paid for an abortion for a girlfriend."
I know that this is a smear technique of the Kerry campaign and
just wonder how much it is happening.
Do any of you visit Christian chatrooms? Is this smear tactic prevalent? |
Hi Shawa:
I remember way back ....I think it was in the spring, reading an article that stated that the Libs were going to be doing a LOT of online scamming, LYING, and rumor starting.
What your friend stated in re: to an abortion was one of the 'for examples' that was mentioned in that article. I do not have a link to refer you to for the article. I didn't save it. Trust me on this one. It's the Libs doing their thing which comes very natural to them. And that is LYING.
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kmudd
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http://www.talonnews.com/news/2004/september/0910_gillespie_warns_attack.shtml
Pointing to a column this week from former presidential campaign manager for Michael Dukakis and Democratic strategist Susan Estrich, Gillespie said the Democrats and the Kerry campaign are going to try to label Bush as a draft dodger and in favor of abortion.
"Interestingly, the New York Daily News reported back in February that the Kerry campaign intended to spread such a rumor [about Bush supporting abortion] in pro-life chat rooms late in the campaign," Gillespie reminded.
Gillespie continued by stating that Estrich will "throw unsubstantiated gossip at President Bush in the same way she falsely maligned the late President Reagan as a date rapist who paid for a girlfriend's abortion and wrongly castigated Nancy Reagan as an adulterer who had an affair with Frank Sinatra."
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