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JB Stone
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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:27 am Post subject: Kerry, VVAW, Assassination Meeting... |
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Kerry Made Revolutionary Warning Before VVAW Assassination of Senators Meeting
| Quote: | | "The political power structure within the United States can and must change if the nation is to avoid violent efforts to seize power, John F. Kerry, a member of the executive committee of the-Vietnam Veterans Against the War |
A week before he attended a 1971 meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War in Kansas City--at which a plan to assassinate U.S. political leaders was debated and dismissed--John Kerry told reporters he could envision a scenario in which "those who are talking about seizing it (the government) will have every right to go after it."
At the same time, Kerry stressed he was opposed to violence.
Kerry would later falsely insist he resigned from VVAW in June 1971, six months before he attended the now-notorious Kansas City gathering.
Historian Gerald Nicosia, author of Home to War: A History of the Vietnam Veterans Movement,
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wrote an 8,000-word piece for the May 23, 2004, edition of the Los Angeles Times Magazine based on FBI files on VVAW he retrieved through the Freedom of Information Act.
http://www.latimes.com/features/printedition/magazine/la-tm-kerry21amay23,0,6525259.story?coll=la-headlines-magazine
In the piece, Nicosia briefly notes that "in Oklahoma City, he [Kerry] warned, according to a newspaper account, that the country must change its political power structure to avoid violent efforts to seize power."
In fact, the article is a Nov. 7, 1971, piece in the Sunday Oklahoman headlined: "Veterans Against War Chief Asks Power Structure Change." It is publicly available today both in the VVAW FBI files released via FIOA and in the online archives of the Daily Oklahoman.
http://www.newsok.com/
The article begins: "The political power structure within the United States can and must change if the nation is to avoid violent efforts to seize power, John F. Kerry, a member of the executive committee of the-Vietnam Veterans Against the War, said in Oklahoma Saturday.
"Meeting with reporters before speaking at the University of Oklahoma, Kerry said, 'If it (the government) doesn't change we are asking for trouble. If it is not done, those who are talking about seizing it will have every right to go after it.'
"Kerry," said the article, "emphasized that he and those he represents are totally opposed to any such violence."
A week later, on Nov. 12-15, 1971, according to Nicosia's Los Angeles Times piece, "A full review of FBI files shows that Kerry not only was in Kansas City, but he also attended the most controversial and explosive session the group ever held." At this meeting the group debated and dismissed a proposal to assassinate U.S. political leaders who supported the war, and Kerry resigned from the group's leadership.
In the Times, Nicosia reports: "Kerry still claims that 'he has no personal recollection' of the tumultuous Kansas City meeting, though he qualified this with a statement from his spokesman David Wade on March 18 that 'if there are valid FBI surveillance reports from credible sources that place some of those disagreements [with Al Hubbard and other VVAW leaders] in Kansas City, we accept that historical footnote in the account of his work to end the difficult and divisive war.'" [Brackets in original.]
"Whether Kerry should have reported the 'assassination plot' to authorities is a question some critics have raised," wrote Nicosia. "The FBI documents say the proposal 'seemed to be only an idea for discussion' rather than an actual conspiracy to kidnap or murder."
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5433
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rlgoodin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: RE: Never Apologize, Never Explain, by Joshua Muravchik |
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| Quote: | | The FBI files, however, don't just reflect Kerry's presence. They show a raucous two-day debate, changing venue midstream when someone announced excitedly that the meeting hall was bugged. The highlight of the gathering was a bitter running battle between Kerry and Hubbard, the two former friends and co-leaders. The brouhaha culminated with Hubbard pulling down his pants to show his scars and Kerry finally resigning from the organization which he had so famously led. Participants interviewed by reporters--including Kerry supporters--scoff at Kerry's claim to have forgotten his starring role at this climactic event. |
Am I right... John Kerry did NOT resign because he feared VVAW would break the law but because he did not believe the scars on Hubbard's ASS were caused in Vietnam?  |
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kate
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Kerry didnt resign from the VVAW..... he resigned from his position on the executive committee, and stated he would still be a spokesman.
In the FBI documments, its reported that he said '"for personal reasons" . In other fbi reports it is noted he had a long standing issue with the direction Hubbard was going in. ( as did some others)
Plus.. some speculate Kerry's ''personal reasons" were that he wanted to distance himself a bit from the radical side of VVAW, since he had political apsirations.
Only Kerry knows his real motivation, but his motivations are typically self-serving. My vote goes to the politcal aspirations.
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rlgoodin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:26 am Post subject: A delicate dance or the first flip flop |
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You say he resigned from the leadership but decided to be a member or spokesman. What I see is the basic human being with associated skill set. How probable is it that a person who today has rallied 50% the electorate (Us voters), raised 1/2 billion dollars, and now threatens to become our President, BUT 30 years ago was not involved in the decisions and directions of an organisation that he was a leader of. In fact if John Kerry dissappeared from the face of this earth his organization would have COASTED for months before taking the direction of new leadership. This kind of leadership commonly occurs in people, they are born with it, and it gets better with practice over time. I guess my point is that it is hard for me to believe that John Kerry was not the source of direction for his organization. He led his organization toward terrorisim and assasination of American political figures, BUT then without warning, suddenly, and in typical Kerry fashion, FLIP/FLOPPED and pulled out of the plan.
AAAAAHHHA I found the first flip/flop! Ha Ha Ha... 
These rapid changes will drive our allies nuts and cause lots of problems |
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