SwiftVets.com

[Dave_R]

But they can't bother to ask Kerry to release all his records: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=5&u=/ap/20041026/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_guard

As I wrote on Polipundit:

This new TANG story from the AP is simply lame, and reiterates a lot of info that I recall reading a couple of months ago (especially about the trainer flights)

Well, duh! Bush was trying to get in a lot of flight hours in order to meet his annual “points” obligation before his physical, so he could xfer to Alabama in a non-flying capacity.

And in Alabama his duties didn’t involve flying, so there would have been nearly no record – no flying, no flight log – of his activities.

There’s nothing at all sinister here.

Except for the effort of the MSM to “get” Bush.

[Kimmymac]

One of the reasons there is so much in the Bible about not allowing hatred to consume you is that because eventually the hatred you meant for others ends up consuming you.

The parasitic OIM has become it's own host, and is now feasting on its own carcass. The more this rehashed and debunked stuff comes out, the more of their own flesh they cannibalize.

They have poisoned themselves with their own venom, and the venom has rendered them blind to the fools they are making of themselves.

Isaiah 54:17, every day.
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The last refuge of scoundrels is not patriotism; it is finicky liberal humanitarianism.--Martin Paretz

[shawa]

Good Grief!!
The media has gone into desperation mode.

The full court press is on! They will probably go back to dragging
up the DUI story, Kitty Kelly's ridiculous allegations, every
POS dirt they can find! Lies, lies, lies.

HANG ON FOLKS, IT'S GOING TO GET WILD.

I'm starting to yell so much, my dog is hiding from me again!

[Tacan70UDN]

[Dave_R]

Regarding Bush's flights in trainers, here's an AP story from 9/10/04 that mentions those flights: http://magazine.novaserve.ns.ca/article4656.html

It also contains an early reference to the bogus CBS memos.

[Mary Ann Parker]

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:10 pm Post subject: Please Send This To The Media! To Anyone Who Will Listen!!

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Bush's National Guard Years
Please someone send this and the other posts that are relevant to
the media. They are avoiding me. Misty had a lot of posts on this
subject.
Thanks and make it a MSM day!
Mary Ann Parker
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I post this in behalf of Bill and several other Vets.
I am sure it appears elsewhere, however, today has it as a hot topic again!
Is this summary definitive??

Mary Ann Parker

Bush's National Guard years
here are the facts:
What do you really know about George W. Bush's time in the Air
National Guard?
That he didn't show up for duty in Alabama? That he missed a physical?
That his daddy got him in?

News coverage of the president's years in the Guard has tended to
focus on one brief portion of that time - to the exclusion of virtually
everything else.
So just for the record, here, in full, is what Bush did:

The future president joined the Guard in May 1968. Almost immediately,
he began an extended period of training. Six weeks of basic training.
Fifty-three weeks of flight training. Twenty-one weeks of
fighter-interc! eptor training.

That was 80 weeks to begin with, and there were other training periods
thrown in as well. It was full-time work. By the time it was over, Bush had
served nearly two years.

Not two years of weekends. Two years.

After training, Bush kept flying, racking up hundreds of hours in
F-102 jets. As he did, he accumulated points toward his National Guard
service requirements. At the time, guardsmen were required to accumulate a
minimum of 50 points to meet their yearly obligation.

According to records released earlier this year, Bush earned 253
points in his first year, May 1968 to May 1969 (since he joined in May 1968,
his service thereafter was measured on a May-to-May basis).

Bush earned 340 points in 1969-1970. He earned 137 points in
1970-1971. ! And he earned 112 points in 1971-1972. The numbers indicate that
i n his first four years, Bush not only showed up, he showed up a lot. Did
you know that?

That brings the story to May 1972 - the time that has been the focus
of so many news reports - when Bush "deserted" (according to anti-Bush
filmmaker Michael Moore) or went "AWOL" (according to Terry McAuliffe,
chairman of the Democratic National Committee). Bush asked for permission to go to Alabama to work on a Senate
campaign. His superior officers said OK. Requests like that weren't unusual,
says retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971.

"In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots," Campenni says. "The
Vietnam War was winding down, and the Air Force was putting pilots in desk
jobs. In '72 or '73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an
obligation and wanted to get out, no problem. In fact, you we! re helping them
solve their problem."

So Bush stopped flying. From May 1972 to May 1973, he earned just 56
points - not much, but enough to meet his requirement.

Then, in 1973, as Bush made plans to leave the Guard and go to Harvard
Business School, he again started showing up frequently.

In June and July of 1973, he accumulated 56 points, enough to meet the
minimum requirement for the 1973-1974 year.

Then, at his request, he was given permission to go. Bush received an
honorable discharge after serving five years, four months and five days of
his original six-year commitment. By that time, however, he had accumulated
enough points in each year to cover six years of service.

During his service, Bush received high marks as a pilot.

&nbs! p; A 1970 evaluation said Bush "clearly stands out as a top notch fighter
interceptor pilot" and was "a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to
for leadership."

A 1971 evaluation called Bush "an exceptionally fine young officer and
pilot" who "continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase
his proficiency even further." And a 1972 evaluation called Bush "an
exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer."
Now, it is only natural that news reports questioning Bush's service -
in The Boston Globe and The New York Times, on CBS and in other outlets -
would come out now. Democrats are spitting mad over attacks on John Kerry's
record by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

And, as it is with Kerry, it's reasonable to look at a candidate's
entire record, including his military service - or lack of it. Voters are
perfectly able to decide whether it's important or ! not in November.

The Kerry camp blames Bush for the Swift boat veterans' attack, but
anyone who has spent much time talking to the Swifties gets the sense that
they are doing it entirely for their own reasons.

And it should be noted in passing that Kerry has personally questioned
Bush's service, while Bush has not personally questioned Kerry's.

In April - before the Swift boat veterans had said a word - Kerry said
Bush "has yet to explain to America whether or not, and tell the truth,
about whether he showed up for duty."
Earlier, Kerry said, "Just because you get an honorable discharge does not, in fact, answer that question."

Now, after the Swift boat episode, the spotlight has returned to Bush.

That's fine. We should know as much as we can.

&! nbsp;
And perhaps someday Kerry will release more of his military records as
well.

Byron York is a White House correspondent for National Review. His
column appears in The Hill each week. E-mail: byork@thehill.com

[jimlarsen]

There's one piece of info that destroys all the "Bush got favors" crap, but the MSM won't admit it. When Bush signed up, his unit was rotating pilots to Viet Nam. Bush had to know this, so we can ony conclude that he wanted to help in the war. So, did it take connections to volunteer to train so he could go the Viet Nam? Doesn't that seem a bit absurd.

There's another piece of information that explains why he flew a trainer and finally stopped flying. When he asked if he could go to Viet Nam he was turned eown because he didn't have the 500 hr. of flying time that was required. They in 1971-1972 the F102 was no longer used in Viet Nam, and pilots who got back from Nam had priority for flying slots.

I can also attest personally that some of the planes couldn't fly because replacement parts were hard to get. In 1970 when I worked close to some of the support engineers for the F102, they complained that cannibalized planes were sitting at most of the bases and there was little hope that spare parts would be found to get them flying again, since spares were being sent along with some of the planes to other countries.

Bringing up the old, discredited, charges is dishonest and disgusting, and, of course, about what we've come to expect from the MSM.

links:
http://www.seanet.com/~johnco/bush102.htm
http://www.americandaily.com/article/4807
http://www.randomjottings.net/archives/001023.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Reserves2a.gif
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210667/posts
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/02/10/bush_credited_for_guard_drills/
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200402180840.asp
http://www.nationalreview.com/babbin/babbin200402190855.asp
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f102.htm
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/040216/bush.shtml
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[Anker-Klanker]

AP (and Reuters) are aligned with the dark side. So the only thing I can observe about this is that they are late in getting into the full fray.

Charge of the Light Brigade - they are truly desperate, and foolish.

[RogerRabbit]

[PC]

A Letter To Dan Rather, Dated 10/26/2004 from Lt Col Nicholas Pishvanov (USAF Ret)

Very good letter:

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_5522.shtml

[GIaunt]

the MSM are like lemmings following CBS off the cliff....

if they do get a real item, no one is going to believe it....

[shadowy]

That's okay, the more of them that keep themselves occupied with this stinkbomb, the fewer there are to protect Kerry from the Qaqaa

[LewWaters]

My email to A.P about this;

info@ap.org