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[PrinceLazar]

The question is a simple one..

Based upon my impression of talk with female students and women the last week, I have the impression that many say they would vote for Hilary in 2008 REGARDLESS OF WHO IS THE OPPONENT, at least as they see it now.

I might live in a liberal loonie state (Illinois), but the trend I am spotting seems to be of concern.

So my question here is a simple one:

What is the best weapong against Hillary in 2008 to win the woman votes? Note how she has carefully staged herself on many "right issues already and .

FINALLY, DON't FORGET to vote ANYTHING BUT KERRY on TUesday. WE need a landslide. Let's at least aim for Hawai in addition to all the original swingstates..

GO OUT AND VOTE!!!!
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---Prince Lazar---

Need some wood?!?!

[jataylor11]

A Republican woman -- Condie Rice or example....

[concernedgranny]

I wouldn't vote for Hillary. Having lived through a snake of a husband, (he made Willie look like a saint), and then having her stick with Bill, she lost any respect from me at all. She did not stay with him for a more noble cause. She stayed with him just for political gain and therefore, in my books, she deserves NO respect. Can't vote for someone I have no respect for.

[PrinceLazar]

[HOV1]

[jataylor11]

I apologize in advance ....where is a case of terminal breast and ovarian cancer when you really, really need it

(Sorry I hate Hillary more than Bill --- a decent woman would have shut down that rapist years earlier --- instead of looking the other way and encouraging it)

[HOV1]

[Tobette]

As much as I would love to see a female president, Hillary would be the last one I would vote for. The first female president should be a strong, honest, moral leader, and Hillary does not have those qualities. Yes, she's a strong leader, but in the typical Liberal self-serving, deceitful way. She is an insult to all Americans as John Kerry and Bill Clinton are.

[Kimmymac]

Oh, puh-leeze. I would run for president myself before I would allow Hilary Clinton to be president. (And I detest the spotlight.) But if these women think Hlary is a character, well! I will introduce them to the meaning of the term character.

I mean, surely they didn't mean to imply Hilary had great character--just that she IS a great character. And certainly I possess more entertainment value than Hilary Clinton, being a great character myself. Besides which I am easier on the eyes, even if I do say so myself.

And I do.

But getting off the topic if myself momentarily, and sadly, I would say the best weapon to use against Hilary is... Hilary. She always has been her own worse enemy. All I can say is that if she does run for president I hope Dick Morris' life insurance is paid up.

"Oh, hi Dick! It's me, Hilary! How are you? Listen Dick, I think you would make a wonderful campaign strategist and I would like to offer you a cabinet level position when I win. What say you and me let bygones be bygones, and go for a picnic in Ft Marcy Park?"

And finally: who people will say they will vote for in the abstract future is far different than who they will vote for in the concrete here and now. also, these women may simply enjoying getting the Prince's wood. Or goat, as the case may be.
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[jataylor11]

Late last year when Hillary's status was unknown I threatened to quit work to campaign against Hillary. This threat remains unretracted.

[Tobette]

It wouldn't matter how much dirt we dig up on Hillary, and there's plenty of it, most of the women voting for Kerry, will vote for Hillary. They don't believe anything negative about them. They have stars in their eyes and let celebrities make their decisions. I know the type - my sister and my sister-in-law. They subscribe to People, Us, Entertainment, Mags. for their education on current (opinions of morons) events. Those (out-of-touch-with-reality) actors are Gods to them. Bill and Hill are idols to them. Pretty immature for 43 and a 53 year olds.

[oasis]

Hello,

PrinceLazar asked..

[OKLady]

Start by researching her record - as a lawyer, first lady and senator. Start watching her senate record, the speeches she is making, her actions.... what conflicts are there lurking in the depths? Is she consistent or flopping over the place? Does she always vote the party line or is she willing to take a stand for a right thing, not just a political stand? What is her record?

Then we also have to consider what the world will be like in 2008 - are we still fighting terrorism - if yes - then we need to make sure that the person can be CIC? Yes - there are women in the military and they do a great job - but she has not been in the military - remember Bill was not in the military and look at some of his decisions... or lack of them.

Also - since she was involved in Bill's years in the WH ( the health care stuff) - I would wonder what the interaction of Bill would be in the Oval Office - would he be involved in key decisions of state? Who would she surround herself with - a repeat of the previous White House staff? What is Bill's record for those two terms - all I remember of eight years was sex, coverups, sex, lawsuits, etc.... Yes the economy was going great there, but it was the continuing of the previous success - at the tail end of his term - we were in the start of a recession and the market and company scandals that came out in 2001-2002 got their start in the late 1990s.

Take a look at what the people in these forums have said were the good traits and bad traits of the candidates - go from there ...

[tiredoflaundry]

I never did and never will vote for a "clinton".

[Sgt-Keeper]

Just a word of advice: You have posted this question in the wrong forum. You will get responses from women who have strong moral convictions, an excellent sense of self worth, a belief in right & wrong, and the ability to see through the smoke screens of excusing liberal civilized decay. These are the NASCAR moms. This question needs to be asked on moveon.org in order to get a sense of grey thinking. Go in as a Hilly supporter, scout, and bring back the intel. "Know thy enemy before engaging same". She will be the next "hit" effort after JFK goes down.
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