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davman Lieutenant
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 205 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:45 pm Post subject: AWOL-Issues that should come up before Tuesday |
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Issues that should come up before Tuesday.
In the final inning of a seemingly endless presidential playoff, at least three issues surprisingly remain outside the ballpark.
It is extraordinary that John Kerry huddled during wartime with enemy officials opposite whom U.S. diplomats negotiated for peace. Kerry did so in May 1970, while an inactive Navy reserve officer, even as Hanoi killed American soldiers and tortured U.S. POWs.
"I have been to Paris," Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 22, 1971. "I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madame Binh's points." These were, respectively, North Vietnam, the Viet Cong's political wing, and its delegate, Madame Nguyen Thi Binh.
Kerry was free to protest the Vietnam War at home. But communicating with hostile powers while Henry Kissinger confronted them at the bargaining table could not have advanced U.S. foreign policy. Nor did Kerry's July 22, 1971 press conference endorsing verbatim the Viet Cong's peace proposal.
"I realize that even my visits in Paris," Kerry testified, "are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating."
Oops.
Kerry's Paris sojourn may have broken the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and self-evidently violated the 1799 Logan Act's prohibition on freelance diplomacy, and the Constitution's Article III, Section 3 strictures against giving "Aid and Comfort" to America's enemies.
Imagine a Navy reserve officer traveling to the Pakistan-Afghan frontier to sip tea with Osama bin Laden. He surely would come home to handcuffs. Yet, after tampering with actual peace negotiations, Kerry seeks the presidency.
The words "mass graves" went unuttered across three presidential debates. Friends and foes of Operation Iraqi Freedom should applaud this: The American-led Coalition disabled Saddam Hussein's mass-graves program.
So far, investigators have identified at least 270 graves; others could hold an estimated 290,000 people. Reporters recently toured a site containing more than 200 corpses in al-Hatra. Those buried there without due process included women, some blindfolded, at least four of whom were pregnant. Each was shot in the head, as were children, including a boy who clutched a ball in his hand. These innocents were shoved into the ground Nazi style — with bulldozers.
Iraqi mass graves are now bad memories, not current nightmares. Inexplicably, President Bush barely mentions this huge humanitarian victory, something Kerry would concede. They both should address this matter.
Graham Allison's new book, Nuclear Terrorism, features this chilling comment from al Qaeda spokesman, Suleiman Abu Gheith: "We have the right to kill 4 million Americans — 2 million of them children — and to exile twice as many and wound and cripple hundreds of thousands."
Allison explains that al Qaeda blames Judeo-Christian infidels for the deaths of some four million Muslims due to, as Islamofascists believe, America's posture toward Iraq since Gulf War I, the Taliban's ouster, Israel's Palestinian policy, etc.
"Parity will require killing 4 million Americans," Gheith declared on an al-Qaeda-tied website in June 2002. "America can be kept at bay by blood alone."
Four million American deaths would equal a horror-movie version of Bill Murray's film Groundhog Day. Every morning would be September 11 for 1,343 days, or about three years and eight months. Al Qaeda never could hijack that many jets. Allison imagines more efficient methods.
"Detonated in Times Square, a 10-kiloton weapon could kill one million New Yorkers. And why should bin Laden or other terrorists stop with one? Four nuclear explosions, in New York, Washington, Chicago, and Los Angeles, could achieve Al Qaeda's gruesome goal of killing four million Americans."
Bush and Kerry should speak up about al Qaeda's desires to recreate in America two-thirds of what Hitler heaped upon European Jewry, only with the terrible, swift swords of suitcase nukes or homemade A-bombs.
Kerry has made a few admirable remarks about securing Russia's nuclear materials on a timetable faster than Bush's. But Kerry's foresight evaporated in a blinding flash when he recently told journalist Matt Bai that "as a former law-enforcement person," he wants to make terrorism a mere "nuisance" — like prostitution and illegal gambling.
These questions merit greater discussion by candidates and voters alike before the chatter stops November 2. |
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2ndamendsis PO3
Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 288 Location: NJ
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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What were the "8 points" of Madame Binh's {communist} proposal?
The search function seems to be finicky and I've been trying for quite a while to look it up.
Hope someone can point me in the right direction _________________ PROUD wife of Army ASA Vet - 66-70
mom of Sailor - Gulf 1
daughter of WW11 Army Vet |
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Geano Lieutenant
Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 237 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Might find them here: There were 8 points, then 6 points, then 7 points, then there were the secret points between Kissinger & the Viets....gets all mixed up in my mind
1954-1975_Vietnam _________________ MSM Lead Nov 3 2004 "Kerry Oval Office Hopes killed by 10,000 Mice..."
Candidate had declared mice "only a nuisance".
States they "moved too Swiftly".... |
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Hondo LCDR
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 423 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Kerry's conduct did not violate the UCMJ. He was not subject to it at the time.
From http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/uscode/
Quote: | 10 USC 802 Art 2
(a) The following persons are subject to this chapter:
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(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal service.
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The version of the UCMJ in effect in the early 1970s said the same in somewhat different language.
If we couldn't prosecute Lindh for treason, I don't think the prospects for convicting Kerry are all that high either. Worth a try, maybe. It would at least ruin his day if a formal investigation were started.
Why Kerry got a pass on what appears to be a pretty clear violation of the Logan Act (since 1948, 18 USC 953) is beyond me. Never have understood that. _________________ "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."
-- John Stuart Mill
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stevec Seaman
Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 192
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject: another ad |
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The one that would kill the Kerry campaign, is during the "Stolen Honor" when the Demo's stated "You better hope we don't win."
Imagine anyone seeing that short piece. A threat to every person in this country.
That should be plain for everyone. _________________ Keep Kerry Out
Kerry is a TRAITOR
Kerry is UNFIT
Steve Christensen |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I think this is the document you are looking for:
Vietnam Archives Texas Tech Document - pdf format _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92 |
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