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depotoo · Seaman Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 150 Location: WPB FL

Would like for this to be for the vets and active military and their families to be able to respond to. Think it is so very important for them. This came from another site I frequent. This gentleman viewed the movie and here is his response all on his own, posted with his permission. I am sending him the link to this thread so he can read your responses.

NavyChief · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:37 am Post subject:

Dear brother,

Yes. I consider you a brother because you are seeing truth and you are accepting that truth. I am proud to tell you "Welcome aboard"!

"Many have eyes but they cannot see and many have ears but they do not listen"

I think you know that what you've learned is true and your convictions are being formed and solidified. Stay committed to your new found belief! And thank you for desiring to learn the truth...

A friend,

- Chief
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Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work?

cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

No sane person likes war.

No sane person would fly a plane into a building full of innocents.

No sane person could stand by and allow that to happen without taking up the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, and by opposing, end them.

I am not a combat veteran. However, I HAVE been intensely trained to survive, no matter what.

Gas doesn't matter. Money is easy, once you figure out it's just how some people keep score.

Look into your heart. Examine your soul. What did *YOUR* ancestors do when push came to shove?

Bear with me a moment, while I drag out my mom's DAR history. She has 13 bars on her ribbon. That represents 13 separate and distinct lines of ancestors to the Revolution. My sister has 14 on hers. My daughter will have 15 when she is accepted. You may be saying "So what?" Good question. One of those bars is for a 15 year old kid. He was a drummer boy during the Revolution. He got wounded. We have his drum, with his blood still on it.

The point is, if that bullet had hit a couple inches to the right, and I wouldn't be here. The entire line of my family would be *gone*, snuffed out.

3000 lines were snuffed out on September 11, 2001. Some of them will bear out. Many won't.

What does that have to do with today?

You have a choice. Pure and simple.

You can trust your fate and the fate of your children to a proven leader.

Or you can put your fate in the hands of a man with a known record of abandoning his men, lying about his actions, lying about the actions of men he never knew, and willing taking orders from known enemies of the United States, and prolonging a war we should have righteously won, and in the process subjecting his brothers in arms to torture and confinement.

Son, I can't tell you what to do. All I can say is look inside yourself. Your ancestors have the answer. Listen to them.

As to "diplomacy", you can NOT negotiate with terrorists. Period. Case closed. You kill them, before they kill you. That's sad, however, if you can't handle that simple fact, you may as well take yourself out of the gene pool. We don't need you. This election isn't about YOU. It isn't about ME. It's about our children, our grandchildren, our great-grandchildren.

Last year 36,000 people died of influenza. 1,200 died making sure you survived long enough to vote.

It's your choice. Choose wisely.
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US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
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Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

In deference to our forum members who are not current or former military, I'm moving this to the Vets/Active duty forum.

Thanks

Admin

PhantomSgt · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: From the Heart

As I watched honorable men reliving tales no one should have to relive, all in the cause of stopping America, a nation they truly love from making a grave mistake, I realized something; The pain they endured in a North Vietnamese prison was not nearly as severe as the pain they felt when talking about one of their own who turned his back on them.

Jesus felt this same pain after his follower Judas betrayed him for talons of silver.

John Kerry was their Judas, the one who betrayed them, their fellow veterans and America as a Nation. Unfortunately the Liberal Press and the spin masters employed by Kerry hid the true story of John Kerry from the people.

At one time we as a people demanded Integrity above all else, for those whom we elected to high office. John Kerry is a soulless man without integrity and nearly half the nation is supporting him. This is the state our beloved republic has fallen into and we may not survive if this Judas is elected.

To the Honorable men who tried to tell the truth, I salute you and support you.

God Bless You All and God Save America
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Retired AF E-8

Independent that leans right of center.

JCCremer · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: One old soldier's reaction

Compliments to the author. He put my sentiments into words much more eloquently than I could ever have.
"Never mind the pissants--the elephants are stampeding!" (author unknown to me, but a good thing to keep in mind)
John C. Cremer
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First tour 1965-66, 173rd Airborne Bde (Sep)
Second tour 1969-70, MACV (SOG)
Retired 1987, Grade 0-6, US Army
Let the truth be known. I'm with you guys and Kerry insulted all of us with his anti-war activities. Let's hold him accountable.

GM Strong · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:20 am Post subject:

Well spoken. Our ancestors came here with nothing or very little to build and leave for us what we have. Over the decades many have given all they had to defend it. Our vote is precious and it is a unique right that few in the world have. What is galling is those who would compromise that by fraud or by legal manipulation. We are a basically honest people and have little tolerance for this type of fraud. There are also people who hate us for what we have and what we are. Nothing more or less. We defend against them because we have faith in ourselves and all our system stands for. We cannot subborn ourselves to global opinion or to those who our ancestors came here to get away from. We are Americans and will remain so. Choose wisely and be informed and vote.
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RogerRabbit · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:46 am Post subject:

My wish is that I could put it the words that you did, but being a decrepit old Master Chief who retired 31 years ago, the words are not as articulate as I would like them to be.

What irritates me mostly is tha Kerry did what he did before the Senate while we still had troops that were being held prisoner and this to me was unconsciencible. Bad enough to turn on his fellow comrades but to put the POW's in harms way (moreso than they aqlready were) is unforgiveable. (I do not have much use for most Senators either, including some Republicans)

Thanks for the words of wisdom - My vote has been cast for a man who has the fortitude to stand for what he believes and puts the country ahead of himself

- Get out and cast your vote for a great president

God Bless George Bush - God Bless America
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ashter · Seaman Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 185

I think this is a great documentary that I hope earns its place in the Historical Movie Files. It is always a humbling experience for me to listen to POWs talk about their experiences they went through. I don't know if I would have had the strength these men exhibited to make it through for all those years.

Trickworm · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:08 pm Post subject:

I watched the video from the download site as I don't live in any of the market areas. I had my brother in law and his wife over this weekend and had them watch it along with the mini documentaries that the swift vets now have on their site.

My brother in law and his wife are staunch Bush supporters, but they were equally shocked by the facts represented by the POW veterans and the follow up shorts at the SBV site. They commented that they were not aware of these facts and I told them to thank the main stream media for their lack of awareness.

I was particularly moved watching "Smitty" while they interviewed his wife. You could see the emotion welling up behind his eyes at having to rake open the wounds once again. The other POW vets also covered my sentiments on any potential Kerry apology. No, I don't want an apology. I want the truth! Nothing less! Regardless of the outcome of this election, we need to continue the fight to expose John Kerry as the traitorous bastard that he really is.

I can only trust that there is a special place in Hell reserved for John Kerry, Tom Hayden and Hanoi Jane Fonda.
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