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stupson
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 1:28 pm    Post subject: Credit the Swiftboat Vets Reply with quote

Credit the Swiftboat vets--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: November 3, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Joseph Farah © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com


President Bush may be celebrating victory today, but he owes it to a group he never acknowledged during the campaign.

I'm talking about the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth.

They are responsible for keeping Bush in the White House – or, more precisely, keeping John Kerry from snatching it from him.

There is not a doubt in my mind this was the difference in the race. The vets did Bush's dirty work. They took Kerry on and told the American people the truth about this fraud, this liar, this deceiver. Just enough Americans got the message to preserve a win for Bush.

In fact, Bush and Karl Rove seemed to do their utmost to lose the election, despite the best efforts of the vets.

Bush seemed to be gaining momentum prior to the first debate with Kerry, but the president stumbled badly, apparently tired and ill-prepared by his political "genius" handlers. The vets were forced to run more ads to keep Kerry from overcoming the deficit.

It is impossible to overstate just how significant the impact of "Unfit for Command," the best-selling book by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, was in this campaign. It kick-started the independent effort of the Swiftboat vets, gave their TV ads more publicity and helped make Kerry the issue.

The Bush campaign should have no illusions that yesterday's victory was their own doing.

It was not.

I'm greatly relieved that Bush eked out a victory. But he hurt his own chances every step of the way.

Clinging to ridiculously unpopular and disastrous policies like amnesty for illegal aliens – whatever euphemism he gives it – probably robbed Bush of 2-3 percentage points in his race. His domestic spending binge in the last four years, plus his even bigger proposals for the next four years dampened enthusiasm for the president, who was re-elected on the basis of his handling of the war on terror.

If I don't sound happy today, it's only because I fear Bush and his handlers will learn all the wrong lessons from victory. There will be a temptation to congratulate themselves for a job well done, a campaign in which they pushed all the right buttons.

The truth is that Kerry was an incredibly weak candidate – one who should have been trounced by an incumbent, wartime president the way Richard Nixon trounced George McGovern, the way Ronald Reagan trounced Walter Mondale.

Kerry was a bigger embarrassment than both those losers. He was, after all, a traitor – a certifiable seditionist unworthy of tying the shoes of most of America's presidents, unworthy of sitting in the U.S. Senate, unworthy of running for president on a major party ticket.

Nevertheless, he won many key states. He won most of the states carried by Al Gore in 2000. He did not embarrass himself or his party. And that's a shame.

So, my advice to the president and his staff today is to keep the celebrating to a minimum and to learn the real lessons of this campaign.

You blew it.

You squandered your mandate.

The American people are behind you on the war on terror. We didn't want to change horses in midstream. But it's time, Mr. President, to read our lips.

We want to rein in the unconstitutional spending sprees. We want to seal our borders. We want to enforce our immigration laws. We want to limit federal authority over our lives. We want to win this war and win it decisively. We want to preserve the institution of marriage and not water it down with "civil unions." We want Supreme Court justices who don't see themselves as high priests in black robes who rule over us.

Please listen to the people, Mr. President. You have one more chance to get it right.

And, by the way, how about a nice tribute to the Vietnam heroes who gave you your victory?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an incredible article! I hope someone can get it into the hands of the President and his staff. I must say that I agree with the effect that the Swift Boats had on this election. The courage that these men exhibited to go up against a tidal wave and stick to their guns throughout the last year is just amazing. THANK YOU SWIFT BOAT VETERANS!
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Gary L. Smith, USN, Ret.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure we all credit the Swift's & all Vets who contributed to Kerry's defeat, but we also must credit the Bush and his people who also came under fire. President Bush delt with everything the liberals & media could throw at him(most lies) and the people seen the greatness and truth in him. With or without us VET's I feel the people seen the snake in the grass. Most liberals Still Don't Get It !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The swiftvets not only took down kerry, but even more importantly they have dismantled the MSM. There is hope for our country now. We all need to keep working and praying. I truely believe our side won because of prayer. The other side does not have this, the most potent advantage.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Credit the Swiftboat Vets Reply with quote

[quote="stupson"]Credit the Swiftboat vets--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: November 3, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Joseph Farah © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com


President Bush may be celebrating victory today, but he owes it to a group he never acknowledged during the campaign.

I'm talking about the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth.

They are responsible for keeping Bush in the White House – or, more precisely, keeping John Kerry from snatching it from him.

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One factor many journalist have forgotten when saying the Swiftboat Vets brought John Kerry down and Bush has not acknowledged them is that IF any acknowledgment of the Swift Vets had been made by Bush--------the media would have again raved on and on about the illegal connection between Bush and a "527 GROUP"---------wasn't this why Atty. Gingsberg separated himself from the campaign when the Dems started calling "foul". I have no doubt the President, Carl Rove and all the campaign staff are silently saying MANY THANKS to the Swift Boat Vets.
(YES, the credit does belong to the Swift Boat Vets------ I thank you all so
very much.)
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Gary L. Smith, USN, Ret.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say everyone who DID NOT support Kerry deserves CREDIT. That is past news and now we must move on. What are you going to do NOW? Is there any real steps being taken to hold Kerry accountable? You think Kerry is finished? Listen to the media and you will see & hear the spin and remember the media is not in our camp.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stupson said Joseph Farah wrote:
...Bush and Karl Rove seemed to do their utmost to lose the election...

I agree with a couple of minor comments. First, the OUM (Old Unfit Media) brought Silky Pony inestimable votes that wouldn't have been there for him if the truth were known. Secondly, organized religion brought inestimable votes for Bush that wouldn't have been there if Silky had not been so adamant about their issues. IMO, these two balanced out and the Swiftees tipped the balance against Silky.

The question now is, will we have to go through this again in 2008?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty amazed. No billionaire backing, motivated individuals that worked tirelessly to get out the truth, and a funding effort that was built on $5-$50 at a time from so many folks.

This is historic. I am going to treasure my "Unfit for Command" book for many years as a reminder of what makes this country great when people can unite togeter and accomplish something from the ground up against all odds.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: Credit the Swiftboat Vets Reply with quote

stupson wrote:

Please listen to the people, Mr. President. You have one more chance to get it right.

And, by the way, how about a nice tribute to the Vietnam heroes who gave you your victory?

Probably because if he did give positive acknowledgement to the SwiftVets, however well deserved that might be, he'd immediately be accused of "coordinating" with them.

Sometimes, it's a female dog to be a hero, because not all heros are given the thanks they deserve.

You may not get a thank you card from Dubya, but you've got one from me. And a whole lot of American who are grateful beyond belief that Kerry didn't get in to the Oval Office.
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