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1st cav · Seaman Recruit Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 5

Kerry is still going to be in Washington for at least 4 years and I think we deserve to know about his discharge. How can we keep up the pressure?

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Here's one way:
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16500
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4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

E.J....too passive signing the petition...it's as effective as going to the UN for another resolution.

We need to take the fight to the enemy don't let up. kerry will probably be dumbfounded when it doesn't desist. Remember for many here (not me) this was not about getting W elected...it was about stopping kerry and getting recognition that the VN vets did not behave in a manner reminiscent of Ghenghis Khan. As long as kerry skates on the form 180 and maintains his "honorable" service in VN...then the VN vet is still shrouded with dishonor.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.

ashter · Seaman Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 185

I agree. I think it's important that the truth come out so that "Stolen Honor" does not go away as mere "propoganda." This movie should be a reference for anyone who wants to look at the history of those events.

And, Kerry brings dishonor to the Officer corps. He should be tried for his crimes and let the courts determine his fate.

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Too passive, of course.

Probably only symbolic, as I have said all along.

But, it's all that we have until we can organize and get some media coverage - and that may well be on the way.

The media is on overdrive trying to figure out where they went wrong, right now, but eventually, some of them are going to start asking the real questions.

When that time comes, they'll be receptive to such articles as Thomas Lipscomb's, which question his discharge and to Unfit for Command, which questions everything Kerry claims to have done in Vietnam and since then.
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Marquis · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:53 am Post subject:

Just a thought:

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it true that in any military [legal] process there is an appeal process, for both sides?

We have the discharge order document; have we considered challenging the finding of the Review Board that awarded Kerry an Honorable Discharge?

Roon · PO2 Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 393 Location: Lilburn, GA

Isn't there an appeal still outstanding from Judicial Watch?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/kerry.shtml

Stevie · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:11 am Post subject:

Marquis · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:13 am Post subject:

4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

Last thing I want is for my grand kids to think I was involved with the opposite end of the spectrum of Move On.Org in an equally silaceous way. If we just go away then there will be those who say that SBVFT was just a Rove plot to undermine kerry...that there was no honor in it...that if SBVFT had been on the level then they would have pursued a kerry admission of wrongfullness...that after the election SBVFT just dissolved because they had no real cause or else they would have continued to address the injustice.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.

Roon · PO2 Joined: 12 Sep 2004 Posts: 393 Location: Lilburn, GA

fb274 · Ensign Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

Rather than petitions, a effective way to make a point known is to send postcards (5 x 7's --blank index cards actually), mailing them to Kerry's office with a question or statement about the releasing of his Navy records by Std Form 180.

Everybody along the way will be reading the content-human nature--could even send them to his Beacon Hill Address, or by mistake, to another address. Letters are suspect due to the anthrax scare, but postcards pose no such threat. Wouldn't hurt if all senators were to receive one as well as members of the house of Reps.

Inexpensive way to get someone's attention. (Wonder how many people would see the content of one postcard during the journey to its destination)

4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

I would like kerry's address posted so that we can all send him birthday and Christmas cards with a Form 180 insert.

On the people movers in DC it is possible to buy signage...How about "Senator...Sign Form 180". No need to mention names, he'll know and so will the media.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.

Marquis · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:27 am Post subject:

I have to type quick, because I can't decide which of you to quote...

You two are very devious and disturbed people! I am so glad that you are on our side... Smile

Post the addresses, and send out the call for donations for the stupid sign!!!!

4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

fb274....Stop reading my mind otherwise you'll go nuts.
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kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam.