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jstubb · Seaman Recruit Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6

I have heard bits and pieces of what he finally has admitted to. I am trying to make a case for the Swift Boat Veterans to a staunch Kerry supporter.

Did he admit to meeting Madame Bhin? (link please)

I know that during the campaign he was backed into a corner or two forcing him to finally admit some things that he was covering or trying cover before.

Can you help me?

This friend of mine is adament more than ever because the Swift Boat Veterans cost Kerry the election.

I really want people to know the truth. Help me make the argument.

What has the MSM and the Kerry campaign used to dispute the evidence?

Besides the ever popular "Lies!" "Lies!" without any proof.

I have read UFC and I beleieve based on what I have seen from Kerry that his character is in line with what the book claims. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that 3 purple hearts and a silver star in 3 months is highly unlikely. I also believe his antiwar stance is in line with his voting record. Why do you think he turned on his brothers after he got home? I know it was for poltical reasons but when do you think he made the decision to speak out against his "Band of Brothers"?

LewWaters · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:31 am Post subject:

ord33 · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio

Grateful · Seaman Recruit Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 12

Here are Kerry's own words from his 1971 testimony:

"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.
I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners."
--Kerry, testifying before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, April 22, 1971

Madame Binh was the foreign minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government (PRG), also known as the Vietcong.

A full transcript of his testimony can be found at:
http://www.c-span.org/2004vote/jkerrytestimony.asp

The audio of Kerry's own admission (at least 30 minutes or more into tape): http://www.jquinton.com/archives/001614.html

The federal law declaring such acts illegal:
"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
--U.S. Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter 45, Section 953: Private correspondence with foreign governments

August 1971 Declassified FBI File (you can find at wintersoldier.com): "According to the article [Denver Post, August 26, 1971], Kerry indicated that he had just returned from a trip to Paris, France, to talk with delegates at the peace talks, inluding those from North Vietnam."

(I tried to post the actual image of this FBI document, but it wouldn't post. Perhaps someone else knows how to attach this?)

deight · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject:

After Rev. Edward Everett Hale, author of 'The Man Without a Country' became Chaplain of the U.S. Senate in 1903, someone asked him, "What do you do, Sir, pray for the members of the Senate?"

He answered,

"No, I look at the members of the Senate, then pray for the United States of America."

http://www.bartleby.com/310/6/1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Everett_Hale

http://unitarian.ithaca.ny.us/sermons/9_26_04.html

jstubb · Seaman Recruit Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6

Thank You for your help!

neverforget · Vice Admiral Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875

See article on www.newsmax.com in which Kerry wrote in his diary he met with terrorists from North Vietnam in Paris.
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ord33 · Rear Admiral Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio

LewWaters · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject:

Don't fall for the useage of the word Terrorist in regards to Kerry's meetings. There were no Terrorists back then, just Guerrela Fighters. Using it leaves them an opening to come back and say we are lairs as the ones he met with were delegates of the Communists.
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