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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S. Reply with quote

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Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters

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WASHINGTON – As London recovers from the latest deadly al-Qaida attack that killed at least 50, top U.S. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on America – one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.

However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack.

Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.

Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.

The Bush administration's unwillingness to secure the U.S.-Mexico border has puzzled and dismayed a growing number of activists and ordinary citizens who see it as the No. 1 security threat to the nation. The Minuteman organization is planning a major mobilization of thousands of Americans this fall designed to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border as it did in April with a 23-mile stretch in Arizona.

According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.

Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.

There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70. The breathtaking news is that an undetermined number of these weapons, including suitcase bombs, mines and crude tactical nuclear weapons, have already been smuggled into the U.S. – at least some across the U.S.-Mexico border.

The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country – including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.

In response to the G2 Bulletin revelations, Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a citizen action group demanding the U.S. government take control of its borders, said an immediate military presence on the borders is now imperative "to stop the overwhelming influx of unidentified, potentially hostile and seditious persons coming across at an alarming rate."

"Terrorists have carte blanche to carry practically anything they want across our national line at this time," he said. "As ordinary citizens have warned this government for years, the only surprising part about the new information reported here is that nothing apocalyptic from Mexican-border weapons trafficking has yet happened. Terrorism has reared its ugly head in London again these past few days, and as we know all too well we are not immune in this country. At this point, the next attempt to attack America at home is just a matter of 'when,' not 'if.' And our unsecured borders have surely contributed to this threat – yet our government officials continue to fiddle while our nation's margin of security and safety burns away. The president and Congress had better wake up before they have to answer for another devastating terrorist incursion on our own soil."

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.


Those darn MS-13 gansters are out here in the Virginia are. This is very disheartening when with all our President has done to stop terrorists and keep them and their sick war out of our streets, our back doors were left open and they have smuggled these weapons into the US.

I just do not get why Dubya has done not a thing to aid in closing our southern borders, and while we are at it, our Canadian borders also. It is not like the Canadians or the Mexicans will come to our aid anytime soon. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These stories of AQ and nukes surface from time to time. The problem for Al Qeada and the writers of these stories is that you simply don't buy a nuke and save it for a rainy day. The weapons deteriorate in about three months without proper maintenance then all you're left with is a heavy suitcase.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of the borders and Canada. I visited Toronto two weeks ago. They have a very big middle east section that wasn't there ten years ago. It's like they were importing them by the truckload. While street side mullahs were condemning America, we also went to into the Toronto Chinatown area and for the first time ever, I watched a group of anti-communist demonstrators carrying signs stating that they came to Canada to get away from communism and that they didn't want to see it reappear in their new home and that everyone should do all they can to resist the left and the communist influence.

Amazing, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Speaking of the borders and Canada. I visited Toronto two weeks ago. They have a very big middle east section that wasn't there ten years ago. It's like they were importing them by the truckload.


What is even more disturbing is that two AQ members are seeking asylum in Canada. Hmmm.....I wonder how many of these middle eastern communities harbor terrorists even here within our own states.


Mariah wrote:
These stories of AQ and nukes surface from time to time. The problem for Al Qeada and the writers of these stories is that you simply don't buy a nuke and save it for a rainy day. The weapons deteriorate in about three months without proper maintenance then all you're left with is a heavy suitcase.


This being true it still does not give one a sense of peace considering that irregardless if they are unable to maintain maintenance on nukes the fact that they were able to smuggle them in here says very little for our security or our governments awareness regarding our open policy on the southern and northern borders.

Also, if they can smuggle these nukes in I would not want to be presumptuous and assume that they cannot maintain them. The fact they could get them in the US without being caught says volumes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This being true it still does not give one a sense of peace considering that irregardless if they are unable to maintain maintenance on nukes the fact that they were able to smuggle them in here says very little for our security or our governments awareness regarding our open policy on the southern and northern borders.

Also, if they can smuggle these nukes in I would not want to be presumptuous and assume that they cannot maintain them. The fact they could get them in the US without being caught says volumes.


That's if you believe AQ has nukes and has smuggled them into the US, which I don't believe.These stories about Al Qaeda and nukes surface about every six months. If nukes are so easy to obtain why doesn't Iran just buy them rather then wasting time trying to build their own nukes? Why wasn't Saddam able to buy his own nukes after the Isrealis destoryed his reactor? Saddam had scientist in his employ who actually might have been able to maintain these weapons.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mariah wrote:
VApatriot wrote:


This being true it still does not give one a sense of peace considering that irregardless if they are unable to maintain maintenance on nukes the fact that they were able to smuggle them in here says very little for our security or our governments awareness regarding our open policy on the southern and northern borders.

Also, if they can smuggle these nukes in I would not want to be presumptuous and assume that they cannot maintain them. The fact they could get them in the US without being caught says volumes.


That's if you believe AQ has nukes and has smuggled them into the US, which I don't believe.These stories about Al Qaeda and nukes surface about every six months. If nukes are so easy to obtain why doesn't Iran just buy them rather then wasting time trying to build their own nukes? Why wasn't Saddam able to buy his own nukes after the Isrealis destoryed his reactor? Saddam had scientist in his employ who actually might have been able to maintain these weapons.


I do not disagree with you, infact, I do agree with you. What I am saying is never under estimate your enemies. I do not under estimate what people as hateful and vial as AQ or any terrorist organization would be or is capable of. I am saying only that this is something to be looked at and looked into. The sleeping giant as the US is refered to is not asleep no more. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most articles I’ve read say deterioration is one to three years, for a suitcase (or nuclear) bomb…..

I'm concerned though, as to the liklihood of these &%!^(%! coming up with a with a dirty(radiological) bomb which is much easier to make...

although it can't compare to the damage of a suitcase nuke, still one hell of a weapon of terror
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For years it has been known Russia cannot account for 13 of their suitcase nukes. 60 minutes did a couple of shows on this subject prior to Sept 11, yet nothing has been discussed since. There is no doubt in my mind terrorists have nukes, yet I do feel that the suitcase nukes were most likely sold with bogus detonation codes. Try as they may there is absolutely no way to explode a nuclear device without the detonator codes. They could use secondary explosives to blow the nuclear device up and nothing would happen.

As for our borders with Canada and Mexico, can you say 51st and 52nd states. I sure can and believe that is the only solution.
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GenrXr wrote:
For years it has been known Russia cannot account for 13 of their suitcase nukes. 60 minutes did a couple of shows on this subject prior to Sept 11, yet nothing has been discussed since. There is no doubt in my mind terrorists have nukes, yet I do feel that the suitcase nukes were most likely sold with bogus detonation codes. Try as they may there is absolutely no way to explode a nuclear device without the detonator codes. They could use secondary explosives to blow the nuclear device up and nothing would happen.

As for our borders with Canada and Mexico, can you say 51st and 52nd states. I sure can and believe that is the only solution.


I would not quote 60 minutes, remember Dan blather and there is no proof. It is just a bit to try as a Dumocrate to say the border is the problem. The problem is no one wants to fight this battle.
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GenrXr wrote:
For years it has been known Russia cannot account for 13 of their suitcase nukes. 60 minutes did a couple of shows on this subject prior to Sept 11, yet nothing has been discussed since. There is no doubt in my mind terrorists have nukes, yet I do feel that the suitcase nukes were most likely sold with bogus detonation codes. Try as they may there is absolutely no way to explode a nuclear device without the detonator codes. They could use secondary explosives to blow the nuclear device up and nothing would happen.

As for our borders with Canada and Mexico, can you say 51st and 52nd states. I sure can and believe that is the only solution.


I would not quote 60 minutes, remember Dan blather and there is no proof. It is just a bit to try as a Dumocrate to say the border is the problem. The problem is no one wants to fight this battle.



Cannot argue with truth and the worst part is your point noone want to fight this battle.
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Makes ya wonder, how many times some people gotta get kicked in the teeth before they realize thier in a fight? Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtboone wrote:
The problem is no one wants to fight this battle.


Yes this is the problem. I do not understand however why?

This has been an issue for years. President Reagan spoke of it himself saying,

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"This country has lost control of its borders. And no country can sustain that kind of position."


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another urban legend about the suitcase nukes on the market. I do worry that we haven’t secured the pre-positioned stocks that were sent into North and South America under the umbrella of diplomatic immunity by our new trading partners and allies.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is very serious..but if they hadn't serviced and maintained in almost 30yrs. I doubt if they would work..if they are indeed here..
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