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dusty · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject: Pray in the face of Katrina

Everyone who believes in the power of prayer, please say one for the folks on the Gulf coast in and around New Orleans. They are gonna need it.

Dusty
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blue9t3 · Admiral Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1246 Location: oregon

If you've got a boat to sell, you might want to take it down there! Shocked

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PhantomSgt · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject:

For seventeen hours in December 2002, Guam was hit by Super Typhoon Pongsana with 175 MPH winds gusting to over 200 MPH.

Here are some photos of the aftermath so you can see what is in store for the Gulf Coast:

http://www.pacom.mil/guamtyphoon/0212typhoon/imagery.shtml

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kman · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject:

Might as well look at her while we're praying.

Cutie pie on Fox just read a NWS alert.

Highlights--or lowlights:

New Orleans will be "uninhabitable" for weeks.

Half of "well constructed" homes will suffer roof and/or wall failure.

Most commercial buildings will be damaged.

High-rise buildings will sway--possibly to the point of failure.

ALL windows will be blown out.

Also, a weather plane just flew into the storm and recorded a pressure of 902 mb, 4 mb lower than the last reading. They may up the wind speed to 180-185 MPH.

Heard the bars are full---What are you thinking? GET OUT!

Kurt

GenrXr · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject:

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wwIIvetsdaughter · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject:

Watching Fox I see the Superdome is filling up as a "refuge of last resort". Has anyone here ever been inside the Superdome? When was it built and can it sustain winds of Cat 5 magnitude? Considering its odd shape, will the winds be "shock cocconed" around the Dome or is it possible it may sustain structural damage? Is the restroom situation feasable for a prolonged period of time? I think someone needs to report on this. Pray for The Big Easy.

GenrXr · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject:

GenrXr · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject:

on further thought,

I am at a loss to understand the thinking behind this plan. City officials have decided to herd the people unable to leave town into the Super Dome to wait out the storm. This is a dumb, dumb, dumb decision and places these people in great danger. This building presents a very large target for high winds even if built to 100 year specifications, which I highly doubt. Why not instead divide the 10k+ into 20 groups or more of 500 people each. Place them in k-12 buildings as well as other government buildings built to 100 year specifications. IF you suffer catostrophic failure and a 50% loss of life at one of the buildings were looking at 250 dead as opposed to 5,000 dead. Either this is a concern over security costs associated with personel securing multiple locations or a typical politician thinking they are important and therefore have good ideas. Regardless, this is a very bad plan.
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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

This whole thing is looking very scary.

NOAA is sounding more pessimistic than I've ever heard them talking - it's almost as if we might have seen the end of New Orleans as we know it.

And people are talking about riding out this storm as if it's nothing. One lady said, "If we can survive Mardi Gras, we will survive the hurricane."

It's almost like there's some kind of disconnect between what NOAA is saying and what the people are hearing.

Very scary stuff. You can listen to talk radio here:
http://www.wjbo.com/main.html and hear constant updates and traffic advisories.
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GenrXr · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:

I B Squidly · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject:

Hate to sound ungracious but how long did New Orleans expect to survive 15 feet below the surrounding water level? Didn't coffins popping out of the ground give them a clue? Before the Corps of Engineers stepped in the Old Man River regularly gobbled up or abandoned towns along the way. Illinois first two Capitols were swept downstream.

The bigger threat to commerce on the Mississippi is if flooding breaches the Achafalaya leaving port facilities downstream high, dry and useless.
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GenrXr · Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject:

dusty · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:31 pm Post subject:

The reason the Superdome was chosen is because it's one of the only places in the city that is actually above sea level by 12 ft.
But now I just heard that part of it's roof lining is coming loose inside and they are getting some water leaks inside the dome.
The restroom facilities are designed to handle crowds of 50,000 or better so there should be no problem with enough of them. The problem will be that the stuff has no where to go when the city floods and the sewage system backs up.
All in all, it's gonna be a mess.
I lived in Lake Charles when Audrey went through there and wiped Cameron, La. off the map. We got people out of trees for a week after. Parts of houses strewn all over the marsh. Snakes by the billions. (not an exageration)
Snakes were one of the biggest problems.

Dusty
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shawa · CNO Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004

Holes Open Up in Louisiana Superdome Roof
Monday, August 29, 2005

NEW ORLEANS — Hurricane Katrina ripped away part of the roof on the Louisiana Superdome (search) as thousands of storm refugees huddled inside Monday.

Strips of metal were peeled away, creating two holes that were visible from the floor of the huge arena. Water dripped in and people were moved away from about five sections of seats directly below.

Others watched as sheets of metal flapped visibly and noisily. From the floor, more than 19 stories below the dome, the openings appeared to be 6 feet long.

Cont'd:
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,167313,00.html
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