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BuffaloJack Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: Iran's new terrorist President Granted Visa to go to NYC |
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AP Photo shows Iran’s new President as 1979 US hostage-taker
London, Jun. 29 - Iran Focus has learnt that the photograph of Iran’s newly-elected president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, holding the arm of a blindfolded American hostage on the premises of the United States embassy in Tehran was taken by an Associated Press photographer in November 1979.
Prior to the first round of the presidential elections on June 17, Iran Focus was the first news service to reveal Ahmadinejad’s role in the seizure of the U.S. embassy in Tehran.
The identity of Ahmadinejad in the photograph was revealed to Iran Focus by a source in Tehran, whose identity could not be revealed for fear of persecution.
Soon after the Iranian Revolution in 1979, Ahmadinejad, who was studying in Tehran’s University of Science and Technology, became a member of the central council of the Office for Strengthening of Unity Between Universities and Theological Seminaries, the main pro-Khomeini student body.
The OSU played a central role in the seizure of the United States embassy in Tehran in November 1979. Members of the OSU central council, who included Ahmadinejad as well as Ibrahim Asgharzadeh, Mohsen Mirdamadi, Mohsen Kadivar, Hashem Aghajari, and Abbas Abdi, were regularly received by Khomeini himself.
Former OSU officials involved in the takeover of the U.S. embassy said Ahmadinejad was in charge of security during the occupation, a key role that put him in direct contact with the nascent security organizations of the clerical regime and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards, which he later joined.
After the 444-day occupation of the U.S. embassy, Ahmadinejad joined the special forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Prosecutor’s Office, based in Evin Prison. The “Revolutionary Prosecutor” was Assadollah Lajevardi, who earned the nickname the Butcher of Evin after the execution of thousands of political dissidents in the 1980s.
Defectors from the clerical regime’s security forces have revealed that Ahmadinejad led the firing squads that carried out many of the executions. He personally fired coup de grace shots at the heads of prisoners after their execution and became known as “Tir Khalas Zan” (literally, the Terminator).
For a fuller account of Ahmadinejad’s life, go to the following story: Iran’s new President has a past mired in controversy. http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2605 _________________ Swift Boats - Qui Nhon (12/69-4/70), Cat Lo (4/70-5/70), Vung Tau (5/70-12/71)
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coldwarvet Admiral
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! Unless this guy has had a true come to Jesus kind of moment a jihad terrorist leader is sitting at the head of the Iranian table of leaders. _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
"Peace is our Profession"
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Jack...most informative. |
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blue9t3 Admiral
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1246 Location: oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Time for a bounty hunter, where's Dog when we need him? _________________ MOPAR-BUYER |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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blue9t3 wrote: | Time for a bounty hunter, where's Dog when we need him? |
Whoever takes on this bad actor should understand they are dealing with the anti-Christ incarnate.
If we don’t ensure this Neanderthal is taken out quickly, he may end up being the Muslim leader that leads an Islamic war against Europe. These events were prophesized by several different sources.
_________________ Retired AF E-8
Independent that leans right of center. |
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coldwarvet Admiral
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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PhantomSgt wrote: | blue9t3 wrote: | Time for a bounty hunter, where's Dog when we need him? |
Whoever takes on this bad actor should understand they are dealing with the anti-Christ incarnate.
If we don’t ensure this Neanderthal is taken out quickly, he may end up being the Muslim leader that leads an Islamic war against Europe. These events were prophesized by several different sources.
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Yes in my book he has jumped to the top of the list of enemy #1. Why is it that this info comes out post election? Did the voters know his history and voted for him anyway's? _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
"Peace is our Profession"
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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coldwarvet wrote: | PhantomSgt wrote: | blue9t3 wrote: | Time for a bounty hunter, where's Dog when we need him? |
Whoever takes on this bad actor should understand they are dealing with the anti-Christ incarnate.
If we don’t ensure this Neanderthal is taken out quickly, he may end up being the Muslim leader that leads an Islamic war against Europe. These events were prophesized by several different sources.
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Yes in my book he has jumped to the top of the list of enemy #1. Why is it that this info comes out post election? Did the voters know his history and voted for him anyway's? |
Hardly anyone really voted, the Mullahs just had a massive write in campaign. _________________ Retired AF E-8
Independent that leans right of center. |
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BuffaloJack Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1637 Location: Buffalo, New York
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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This answers several questions for me:
1. Why are Iranian children being vaccinated for Smallpox?
2. Why Iran should never be allowed to have a nuclear program of any kind, be it weapons or peacetime (as in the peace of a cemetary) energy? _________________ Swift Boats - Qui Nhon (12/69-4/70), Cat Lo (4/70-5/70), Vung Tau (5/70-12/71) |
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PhantomSgt Vice Admiral
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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BuffaloJack wrote: | This answers several questions for me:
1. Why are Iranian children being vaccinated for Smallpox?
2. Why Iran should never be allowed to have a nuclear program of any kind, be it weapons or peacetime (as in the peace of a cemetary) energy? |
For the same reason that everyone we deploy to Iraq is innoculated against smallpox.
Where do you think Saddam's extensive collection of bio weapons ended up before, during and after the war? Syria and Iran.
I figure the first outbreak will occur in Western Europe with North America the next inline.
_________________ Retired AF E-8
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blue9t3 Admiral
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1246 Location: oregon
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Just a little off topic---but do you remember where sadman sent his air force at the start of desert storm,----da-da----Iran! After fighting for 8 years the JO sent his planes to his enemy!
Ps. The jerk buried some of them in the sand, kinda like my cat does sometimes! _________________ MOPAR-BUYER |
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sdmoel Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20050630/ap_on_re_us/iran_former_hostages
SAVANNAH, Ga. - An American held hostage in Iran for 444 days says "there's no question about it" — the country's new president was one of his captors a quarter-century ago. But others are not so sure.
Watching coverage of Iran's presidential election on television dredged up 25-year-old memories that prompted four of the former hostages to exchange e-mails. And those four realized they shared the same conclusion — the firm belief that President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had been one of their Iranian captors. Associates of Ahmadinejad deny any such link.
"This is the guy. There's no question about it," said former hostage Chuck Scott, a retired Army colonel who lives in Jonesboro, Ga. "You could make him a blond and shave his whiskers, put him in a zoot suit and I'd still spot him."
Scott and former hostages David Roeder, William J. Daugherty and Don A. Sharer told The Associated Press on Wednesday they have no doubt Ahmadinejad, 49, was one of the hostage-takers. A fifth ex-hostage, Kevin Hermening, said he reached the same conclusion after looking at photos.
Not everyone agrees. Former hostage and retired Air Force Col. Thomas E. Schaefer, of Peoria, Ariz., said he doesn't recognize Ahmadinejad, by face or name, as one of his captors.
Several former students among the hostage-takers also said Ahmadinejad did not participate. And a close aide to Ahmadinejad denied the president-elect took part in the seizure of the embassy or in holding Americans hostage.
Militant students seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran on Nov. 4, 1979, and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days to protest Washington's refusal to hand over the U.S.-backed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi for trial. The shah fled Iran earlier that year after he was overthrown by the Islamic Revolution.
Ahmadinejad was a member of the Office of Strengthening Unity, the student organization that planned the embassy takeover, but he was opposed to taking the U.S. Embassy, several of his associates said.
The aide, Meisan Rowhani, told the AP from Tehran that Ahmadinejad was asked during recent private meetings if he had a role in the hostage taking. Rowhani said he replied, "No. I believed that if we do that the world will swallow us."
Mohammad Ali Sayed Nejad, a longtime friend of the president-elect, said that in 1979, "Ahmadinejad had focused his fight against communism and Marxism and he was one of the opponents of seizing the U.S. Embassy. He was a constant opponent."
Some former hostages couldn't be sure about their captors. Former Marine embassy guard Paul Lewis of Sidney, Ill., said he thought Ahmadinejad looked vaguely familiar when he saw a picture of him on the news last week, but "my memories were more of the gun barrel, not the people behind it."
Ex-hostage Alan Golacinski also said he couldn't be certain.
"I can't identify this individual as one of my interrogators because I was blindfolded during all of my interrogations," said Golacinski, who was an embassy security officer. However, Golacinski said, "He did look somewhat familiar."
Scott and Roeder both said they were sure Ahmadinejad was present while they were interrogated.
"I can absolutely guarantee you he was not only one of the hostage-takers, he was present at my personal interrogation," Roeder said in an interview from his home in Pinehurst, N.C.
Daugherty, who worked for the CIA in Iran and now lives in Savannah, said a man he's convinced was Ahmadinejad was among a group of ringleaders escorting a Vatican representative during a visit in the early days of the hostage crisis.
"It's impossible to forget a guy like that," Daugherty said. "Clearly the way he acted, the fact he gave orders, that he was older, most certainly he was one of the ringleaders."
Ahmadinejad, the hard-line mayor of Tehran, was declared winner Wednesday of Iran's presidential runoff election, defeating one of Iran's best-known statesmen, Ayatollah Hashemi Rafsanjani. The stunning upset put conservatives firmly in control of all branches of power in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
In a first-person account on the British Broadcasting Corp. Web site, world affairs editor John Simpson said he, too, recognized Ahmadinejad, saying there was something "faintly familiar" about him. "I realised where I must have seen him: in the former American embassy in Tehran," Simpson wrote.
Scott, Roeder, Daugherty and Sharer said they have been exchanging e-mails since seeing Ahmadinejad emerge as a serious contender in Iran's elections.
"He was extremely cruel," said Sharer, of Bedford, Ind. "He's one of the hard-liners. So that tells you where their government's going to stand for the next four to five years."
After seeing recent newspaper photos, Sharer said, "I don't have any doubts" that Ahmadinejad was a hostage-taker.
A memory expert cautioned that people who discuss their recollections can influence one another in reinforcing false memories. Also, it's harder to identify from memory someone of a different race or ethnicity, said psychologist Elizabeth Loftus of the University of California, Irvine.
"Twenty-five years is an awfully long time," Loftus said. "Of course we can't say this is false, but these things can lead people down the path of having a false memory."
Scott gave a detailed account of the man he recalled as Ahmadinejad, saying he appeared to be a security chief among the hostage-takers.
"He kind of stayed in the background most of the time," Scott said. "But he was in on some of the interrogations. And he was in on my interrogation at the time they were working me over."
Scott also recalled an incident while he was held in the Evin prison in north Tehran in the summer of 1980.
One of the guards, whom Scott called Akbar, would sometimes let Scott and Sharer out to walk the narrow, 20-foot hallway outside their cells, he said. One day, Scott said, the man he believes was Ahmadinejad saw them walking and chastised the guard.
"He was the security chief, supposedly," Scott said. "When he found out Akbar had let us out of our cells at all, he chewed out Akbar. I speak Farsi. He said, `These guys are dogs, they're pigs, they're animals. They don't deserve to be let out of their cells.'"
Scott recalled responding to the man's stare by openly cursing his captor in Farsi. "He looked a little flustered like he didn't know what to do. He just walked out."
Roeder said he's sure Ahmadinejad was present during one of his interrogations when the hostage-takers threatened to kidnap his son in the United States and "start sending pieces — toes and fingers of my son — to my wife."
Hermening, of Mosinee, Wis., the youngest of the hostages, said that after he looked at photos and did research on the Internet, he came to the conclusion that Ahmadinejad was one of his questioners.
Hermening had been Marine guard at the embassy, and he recalled the man he believes was Ahmadinejad asking him for the combination to a safe.
"His English would have been fairly strong. I couldn't say that about all the guards," Hermening said. "I remember that he was certainly direct, threatening, very unfriendly."
Rowhani, the aide to Ahmadinejad, said Ahmadinejad said during the recent meeting that he stopped opposing the embassy seizure after the revolution's leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, expressed support for it. But the president-elect said he never took part.
"Definitely he was not among the students who took part in the seizure," said Abbas Abdi, the leader of the hostage-takers. Abdi has since become a leading supporter of reform and sharply opposed Ahmadinejad. "He was not part of us. He played no role in the seizure, let alone being responsible for security" for the students.
Another of the hostage-takers, Bijan Adibi, said Ahmadinejad "was not involved. There was no one by that name among the students who took part in the U.S. Embassy seizure." |
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Rdtf CNO
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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This is very serious and that's why Fox has had it on all day today. The population of Iraq is mostly young military age people that were born of the generation in Iran that experienced and supported the hostage taking of Americans in 1979-80. This man is a terrorist, and this feels like a big set up. Jimmy Carter's mistakes taught the terrorists well, and they are shoving it all in our faces now, making sure we know they have been waiting patiently this entire time. That's what terrorists do best. |
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coldwarvet Admiral
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps it is time to lob some ICBM’s in their direction. What a site it would be for the blast doors in America's prairie land to open while rockets vanish into the big blue sky to re enter in Iran turning the sand to glass. We all know it is just a matter of time before they have the capacity to do this to the U.S. and once they have it; unlike the Soviets they will most certainly use it their jihad indoctrinated souls require them destroy Israel and the great Satan. _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
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DaveS Ensign
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:11 am Post subject: Chrissy Matthews said tonight.. |
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that the person highlighted in this photo was dead. If so he can not be the current President of Iran.
Looks like some more work needs to be done on this one. |
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DaveS Ensign
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: P.S. |
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I did not mean to imply that Chrissy was correct just that the facts need to be uncovered for certainty. It looks to me that the legacy of Jimmy Carter stills lingers. |
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