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Tanya
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 Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: Schachte ready to re-engage in Kerry Purple Heart dispute |
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Thursday, May 04, 2006
By Ron Brinson
~snip~
"Today, this trussle over truth and confusion simmers on just beneath the public's attention. That's likely to change soon. Televison news veteran Marvin Kalb and his daughter are working through a Harvard-based grant to publish a book that will include commentary on the effectiveness and the credibility of the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, and Schachte's personal role in the 2004 campaign,"
http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=85178§ion=editorials |
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the heads-up Tanya...
Kerry has been a busy boy, and this is the first I've heard of any "serious" post-election "analysis" of the SBVT allegations. In legal parlance, the "rehabilitation" and "extreme makeover" (is there a show yet?) of John Kerry has commenced in earnest.
While I'm unaware of Marvin Kalb's political sympathies, I do know he was/is a heavyweight in the broadcast "journalism" of the 60's and 70's and is probably deeply entrenched in the leftist formulation of the "Vietnam" experience.
| Quote: | In an April 12 e-mail inquiry to Schachte, Kalb characterizes the Schachte-Kerry disagreement as an "especially difficult issue." He told the admiral he had spoken to Kerry, Zaladonis and a second enlisted man. "All three state again and again they were the three men on board the Boston Whaler on that night," Kalb informed Schachte. "They say you weren't on that boat, but that you might have been on board the accompanying Swift Boat."
The admiral bristles at such a premise and wonders why Kalb does not insist that Kerry release his entire service record.
"The truth is not scattered, it's in John Kerry's records," Schachte contends. "This debate is so unnecessary, and Senator Kerry should end it once and for all and authorize release of all his military records. He owes it to America to do just that." |
Fasten your seatbelts folks...I would imagine this marks the commencement of John Kerry II in the guise of "scholarly" journalism.
Let's hope that Mr. Kalb's scope leads him to examine ALL the ""especially difficult issue(s)" with equivalent zeal (but, at this point, I'm not holding my breath).
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Deuce
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Me#1,
AND, it would be so great to hear this quote just once on a national news network!
| Quote: | "The truth is not scattered, it's in John Kerry's records," Schachte contends. "This debate is so unnecessary, and Senator Kerry should end it once and for all and authorize release of all his military records. He owes it to America to do just that."
--Adm. Schachte |
And since we won't hear it on the networks, we may as well start repeating it here!
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Deuce wrote: | | And since we won't hear it on the networks, we may as well start repeating it here! |
...and do not fail to note that Adm. Schachte has raised the ante...the price of poker has just gone up.
| Quote: | | Billy Schachte was a hesitant player on America's biggest political stage. Next time, he says, he will not be so reluctant. He has a pointed response to Marvin Kalb's inquiries and to anyone else who wants to join the discussion: facts define truth and truth cures confusion; Senator Kerry should release all his military records and his personal chronicle. The disagreement can be settled accordingly. |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh boy! For Admiral Schachte to come out like this is MAJOR news!! It made me sick to see what the MSM tried to do to him during the election. What a smear campaign. I keep sighing over the fact that they did not keep personnel rosters for each boat's actions. How I dream and dream of someday finding something in the message traffic that would dispell that Kerry story! Wouldn't it be great to have had a ship's log!! |
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| While a quick search for "Marvin Kalb" at the Media Research Center returned some mixed indices (he was, apparently, critical of the Ronald Reagan depiction in the Showtime film that produced such an uproar), he was rather open in his support of Dan Rather post-Rathergate. I'm somewhat leery as to his political bent, but my bet is it's at least left-leaning. |
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LewWaters
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| While we all have been demanding sKerry release his full records, I forsee a smokescreen coming where he released limited views to 3 friendly reporters. |
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| LewWaters wrote: | | While we all have been demanding sKerry release his full records, I forsee a smokescreen coming where he released limited views to 3 friendly reporters. |
Lew, I may be wrong, but Kerry's limited release isn't fooling anyone but the truly uninformed and the uninformable. Until such time as it's proven otherwise, I'll give Kalb the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I (we?) may be surprised. |
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rhv5862
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: Schachte ready to Re-engage |
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I may be wrong but I seem to recall someone during Kerry's run for president posting that Kerry had noted in his journal which Brinkley had That he (Kerry) had been there 9 days and had not been shot at yet. The date of the notation was several days after his first mission.
No " around statement since I don't recall the exact quote.
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LewWaters
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Me#1You#10 wrote: | | Lew, I may be wrong, but Kerry's limited release isn't fooling anyone but the truly uninformed and the uninformable. Until such time as it's proven otherwise, I'll give Kalb the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps I (we?) may be surprised. |
Perhaps I chose my wording hastily. I don't think it will be Kalb doing any covering up but sKerry himself when and if anyone asks him about his record.
He just may repeat the tired old, "I already released my records." Of course, his damage control people will also repeat it. |
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kate
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Schachte ready to Re-engage |
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| rhv5862 wrote: | I may be wrong but I seem to recall someone during Kerry's run for president posting that Kerry had noted in his journal which Brinkley had That he (Kerry) had been there 9 days and had not been shot at yet. The date of the notation was several days after his first mission.
No " around statement since I don't recall the exact quote.
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right you are
quick look through the Kerry's Service - Forum Archives thread ( in R&R)
finds this thread
9 days after Purple Heart, Kerry wrote "not shot at yet with links to the original article
gonna archive that article
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| Quote: | Hillary Clinton Gets Purple Heart Award
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has put in for a Purple Heart award - and she received the decoration yesterday.
The former first lady garnered the award without being wounded in combat - or sustaining any kind of injury at all - as is usually the case with Purple Heart recipients. |
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/17/91335.shtml
John Kerry, may he rot in H&ll, isn't the only one who has an undeserved Purple Heart.
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Jack, let's be fair here. While I might question the good sense of the association, the story title is misleading...
| Quote: | | Instead, Mrs. Clinton received a symbolic award from the Military Order of the Purple Heart "in recognition of her inspirational leadership and dedicated service to America’s military service members and America’s veterans." |
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BuffaloJack
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IMO, the ONLY people who should ever receive a purple heart should be those wounded or killed. IMO, any other awarding of this honor is gratuitous abuse. Clinton might be worthy of some distinction for her work here but she didn't EARN a purple heart. A Naval Captain friend of mine checked this out through channels and she did get the medal.
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LimaCharlie
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Lets be honest. Who would you rather face in armed battle, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton? He is a wanta-be. Instead of more ammo, he would bring his camera to stage and record the after action report. She is devious, cunning, downright scary, and would bring a nuke to a small firefight.
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