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shawa
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 Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: Mass. Delegates Sue Over Spying |
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| Quote: | Mass. delegates sue over spying
By Evan Lehmann, Eagle Washington Bureau
Friday, May 12
WASHINGTON — The president's domestic surveillance program is unconstitutional and should be terminated, according to a brief filed in federal court yesterday by eight Massachusetts congressmen.
The 39-page brief seeks to undercut the administration's legal rationale for the secretive program, administered by the National Security Agency and targeting telephone and e-mail communication between people in the United States and suspected terrorists overseas. Rep. John Olver of Amherst and the other Massachusetts lawmakers, all Democrats, filed the brief with 64 other House members. The document supports a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union asking the United States Circuit Court of Eastern Michigan to declare the program illegal.
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Sen. John Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat, declared yesterday in a speech at American University, "Enough is enough."
He said the Senate should conduct vigorous confirmation hearings for Gen. Michael Hayden, who has overseen what Kerry called the "illegal" surveillance program as second in command at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Bush tapped Hayden this week to head the Central Intelligence Agency.
"Today our leaders hold themselves above the law — in the way they not only treat prisoners in Abu Ghraib, but assert unchecked power to spy on American citizens," Kerry said.
Cont'd at: http://berkshireeagle.com/headlines/ci_3813787 |
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dusty
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I have just two words for Sen. Kerry.
STUFF IT!
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Deuce
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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well, I 'm a thinkin' that we can now guess how the rats have decided to impeach our president after they 'charge the Hill' on November 2nd!
ya'all can just see Teddy, er John Kerry with his Winchester '73 riding up the steps of Capitol Hill yelling CHARGE...
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Rep. John Olver of Amherst and the other Massachusetts lawmakers, all Democrats, filed the brief with 64 other House members. The document supports a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union asking the United States Circuit Court of Eastern Michigan to declare the program illegal. |
This is, apparently, an "Amicus" brief...and one to which "Braveheart" Kerry, apparently, respectfully declined to add his John Forbes. Not "nuanced" enough for His Fraudulency?
In a related note, from today's NY Sun Editorial page...
| Quote: | Dialing and the Democrats
New York Sun Editorial
May 12, 2006
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When three major telephone companies are supplying the administration with records of all Americans regardless of any hint of wrongdoing, Congress can't look the other way." Rep. Harold Ford Jr., a Democrat of Tennessee, went on Fox News Channel to call the news "disturbing." Senator Clinton pronounced herself "deeply disturbed." (ed. I'll leave that one alone)
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Mrs. Clinton might want to have a talk with her husband. It was President Clinton who signed into law the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994, after it was passed in both the House and Senate by a voice vote. That law is an act "to make clear a telecommunications carrier's duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for law enforcement purposes, and for other purposes." The act made clear that a court order isn't the only lawful way of obtaining call information, saying, "A telecommunications carrier shall ensure that any interception of communications or access to call-identifying information effected within its switching premises can be activated only in accordance with a court order or other lawful authorization."
The law that President Clinton signed into law and that was approved by voice votes in 1994 by a Democrat-majority House and a Democrat-majority Senate not only made clear the phone companies' "duty" to cooperate, it authorized $500 million in taxpayer funds to reimburse the phone companies for equipment "enabling the government, pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, to access call-identifying information that is reasonably available to the carrier." Again, the law, by referring to "other lawful authorization," states clearly that a court order isn't the only form of lawful authorization possible.
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This is the issue that the Democrats of the Howard-Dean-John-Kerry era just don't seem to prepared to credit. The Democrats who controlled the White House and both houses of Congress in 1994 showed signs of understanding the national security issues at stake here when they passed the law. Their understanding seems to have eroded since then. It can't be that they feel America faces less of a threat - if anything, the attacks of September 11, 2001, make the case for such programs even stronger. What's changed isn't the enemy threat but the party that now controls the White House. Which explains why Mrs. Clinton is "deeply disturbed" about activities legal under a law her husband signed.
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shawa
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| Quote: | | Senator Clinton pronounced herself "deeply disturbed. |
Now that is just TOO HILARIOUS!
Don't they say acknowledging your problem is the first step towards the cure?? (hee hee)
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dusty
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| shawa wrote: | | Quote: | | Senator Clinton pronounced herself "deeply disturbed. |
Now that is just TOO HILARIOUS!
Don't they say acknowledging your problem is the first step towards the cure?? (hee hee) |
Good lick shawa.
And Me#1 you made a good call on the New York Sun. I'm really starting to like this publication a lot. I'm gonna have to break down and get a subscription. Looks like their commentary is worth paying to read and have to disseminate.
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noyesj
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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The RED queen is disturbed, by her own voice.
Now she sees herself the same as many others do.
Can we get her commited on her own word? 
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AMOS
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: Pleasing. |
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| Making photos of her (any part) and recordings of that voice illegal would go a long towards pleasing many folks. Makes me wanna do the Dean Scream. |
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kate
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| Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Mrs. Clinton might want to have a talk with her husband. It was President Clinton who signed into law the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994, after it was passed in both the House and Senate by a voice vote. |
Finally that's getting some press. The Dems sure have a short memory don't they. Hope this gets more exposure
link to HR4922, crosslinks to S2375. Senate Bill was Sponsored by leaky Leahy. He needs to be reminded.
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Anker-Klanker
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| Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The Dems sure have a short memory don't they. |
Nope, I don't think that's it. I think Democrats count on the public having a short memory, and especially count on MSM not to remind the public, and if it does come up for the MSM to provide suitable cover, spin, and obfuscation for them. |
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