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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:14 am    Post subject: Our Marines Are In Shackles!! Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killing of Iraqi Planned by Marines

Associated Press | June 07, 2006

WASHINGTON - U.S. military investigators are developing a theory that a small group of Marines planned and carried out the killing of an Iraqi civilian 1 1/2 months ago, then put a shovel and an AK-47 assault rifle at the scene to divert suspicion.

U.S. military investigators believe the killing of an Iraqi civilian on April 26 was planned by a small group of Marines who shot the man and then planted a shovel and an AK-47 rifle at the scene, said Tuesday.

A senior Pentagon official with direct knowledge of the investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service said Tuesday that evidence so far indicates Marines entered the town of Hamdaniya in search of an insurgent and, failing to find him, grabbed an unarmed man from his home and shot him.

The AK-47 and the shovel, which were taken from another home before the shooting, were meant to make it look like the man had been digging a hole for a roadside bomb and had been killed in an exchange of gunfire, the official said.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Seven Marines and a Navy medical corpsman are being investigated in the case, but no charges have been filed. All eight were removed from duty with the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment in Iraq and are being held at Camp Pendleton, a sprawling Marine base in southern California.

Jeremiah Sullivan III, an attorney for the unidentified Navy corpsman among the eight accused, told a news conference in San Diego on Tuesday that he could not comment on reports that the killing of the Iraqi was premeditated because he had seen no investigation findings nor heard any charges.

Sullivan said his client is being held in solitary confinement in the brig at Camp Pendleton and is allowed one brief exercise period per day. Even then, Sullivan said, the corpsman remains shackled at the hands, waist and ankles, and he is escorted when he walks in the prison yard by at least one military guard grasping his waist shackles. Sullivan characterized such treatment as "cruel and unusual," the type of punishment specifically forbidden by the U.S. constitution.

"The reason they are in such oppressive conditions is because of the sensational nature of this case, and that's wrong," Sullivan said.

Camp Pendleton spokesman Lt. Lawton King said that "given the preliminary findings" of the investigation, it was decided that the service members would be held in "the maximum level of restraint." They are escorted as a safety precaution, he said, adding that the prisoners are allowed to have visitors, reading materials, television, music and visits by a chaplain and are allowed to shop at the brig convenience store.

Spokesmen for the Marine Corps and the Defense Department have refused to comment on any aspect of the Iraqi man's death since the investigation was announced May 24. In that announcement the Marines said Maj. Gen. Richard C. Zilmer, commander of Marine forces in Iraq, had asked for a criminal investigation after a preliminary inquiry found sufficient information to warrant further investigation.

This case is unrelated to the killings of 24 civilians last Nov. 19 in the city of Haditha by Marines from another unit. The NCIS also is investigating that case, and a parallel probe is reviewing what Pentagon officials have said appeared to be efforts by the Marines at Haditha to cover up the true circumstances of those killings.

The Washington Post reported on Monday that the Iraqi victim at Hamdaniya was Hashim Ibrahim Awad al-Zobaie, a 52-year-old disabled man shot four times in the face. His family told the Post a small group of U.S. servicemen came to them last week and offered the family money in exchange for supporting the Marines' version of the killing.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could our nation have sunk so far that our fighting men have more to fear from PC lawyers, politicians and journalists with an agenda than they do from the enemy?

These servicemen are being afforded less rights in their own country than the scum who would see us dead.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BuffaloJack wrote:
How could our nation have sunk so far that our fighting men have more to fear from PC lawyers, politicians and journalists with an agenda than they do from the enemy?

These servicemen are being afforded less rights in their own country than the scum who would see us dead.

BuffaloJack ...
I feel it necessary to "correct" your question by adding the appropriate words:
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How could our nation have sunk so far yet again that our fighting men have more to fear from PC lawyers, politicians and journalists with an agenda than they do from the enemy?


This site is, after all, the result of JF Kerry, the "Winter Soldier" investigations, and those things.

When we went into Iraq, I e-mailed my son that he should be proud of what he was doing. Later on, people would sour on things, the press would print only bad things, and the public in general would think less of him because he "was in the military". That's when it would become "like Viet Nam". Unfortunately, I seem to have been correct.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jwb7605 wrote:
BuffaloJack wrote:
How could our nation have sunk so far that our fighting men have more to fear from PC lawyers, politicians and journalists with an agenda than they do from the enemy?

These servicemen are being afforded less rights in their own country than the scum who would see us dead.

BuffaloJack ...
I feel it necessary to "correct" your question by adding the appropriate words:
Quote:
How could our nation have sunk so far yet again that our fighting men have more to fear from PC lawyers, politicians and journalists with an agenda than they do from the enemy?


This site is, after all, the result of JF Kerry, the "Winter Soldier" investigations, and those things.

When we went into Iraq, I e-mailed my son that he should be proud of what he was doing. Later on, people would sour on things, the press would print only bad things, and the public in general would think less of him because he "was in the military". That's when it would become "like Viet Nam". Unfortunately, I seem to have been correct.
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It seems like déjà vu all over again doesn’t it? My only surprise is it hasn’t gotten worse than it has to date.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jwb7605 wrote:
When we went into Iraq, I e-mailed my son that he should be proud of what he was doing. Later on, people would sour on things, the press would print only bad things, and the public in general would think less of him because he "was in the military". That's when it would become "like Viet Nam". Unfortunately, I seem to have been correct.


Kerry and his treasonous ilk are trying, that's fersure, but they're being held at bay by a new and powerful voice jwb. MSM's stranglehold on the reins of public opinion has been lost...forever. Imagine if that "voice" had had such a media platform in the Vietnam era. I'm convinced that the outcome would have been FAR FAR different...as will the public opinion of those who, like your patriot-son, had the courage to serve when duty, honor and country beckoned him.

Please pass along my deepest respect to your son for his service.
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