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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: McCain attacked by Veterans group Reply with quote

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/mccain-draws-heat-from-vet-group-club-for-growth-2007-03-13.html

McCain draws heat from vet group, Club for Growth
By Aaron Blake
March 14, 2007
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) began the presidential race as a frontrunner with a well-known personal story and a unique style. But in recent weeks his past has provoked some potentially harmful early opposition stemming from those same qualities.

Despite McCain’s recent appeals to the GOP’s conservative base and a positive military image as a former prisoner of war, his record is drawing the ire of economic conservatives and some of the same veterans who worked to tar Sen. John Kerry’s (D-Mass.) 2004 presidential campaign.

The anti-tax group Club for Growth yesterday released a review of McCain’s record on its top priorities and cautioned against electing him president. Meanwhile, a new “527” advocacy group, similar to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, has pledged to expose McCain as a communist apologist who turned his back on prisoners of war.

In the Club’s review — its third “white paper” of the 2008 presidential election — the group concluded “the evidence of [McCain’s] record and the virulence of his rhetoric suggest that American taxpayers cannot expect consistently strong economic policies from a McCain administration.”

In particular, the Club calls McCain’s tax record, most notably his opposition in 2001 and 2003 to President Bush’s tax cuts, “profoundly disturbing and anti-growth,” though it does praise him in areas such as spending restraint and free trade. It also calls his record on protecting political speech “appalling” in light of the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance reform bill.

“While Sen. McCain’s economic record is clearly mixed, a careful study demonstrates that even his pro-growth positions tend to be tainted by a heavy anti-growth undercurrent,” Club President Pat Toomey wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

The Club’s opposition to then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in a bitter Republican primary last cycle might have contributed to his loss in the general election. More broadly, the group acts as a voice for economic conservatism. In previous evaluations, it offered some criticism of former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) and a generally positive review of Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.).

McCain declined an invitation to the Club’s winter conference recently, citing a planned trip to Iraq at the same time.

McCain spokesman Matt David downplayed any differences with the Club’s core economic philosophy, noting that McCain has received an “A” from the National Taxpayers Union and a 91 percent rating from Citizens Against Government Waste.

“John McCain is the only leading Republican candidate with a 24-year record as a fiscal conservative,” David said. “He’s been a leader in the fight to cut government waste, reduce spending and lower taxes.”

Meanwhile, the McCain campaign had no comment on the new 527, known as “Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain.” It is founded by the same veterans who ran an Internet information campaign against Kerry in 2004, “Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry.”

Vietnam veterans Jerry Kiley and Ted Sampley filed with the IRS late last month and recently launched a website with the “express purpose of defeating John McCain.” In contrast to the 2004 election, the group plans to run ads on television and radio in addition to its Web-based approach.

In 2004, the group made a splash by publicizing pictures of Kerry at anti-war protests in the 1970s, including one showing him several rows behind Jane Fonda. It claims credit for originating many of the attacks used by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth later in the campaign.

Sampley has compared McCain to the brainwashed “Manchurian Candidate” and is highly critical of McCain’s actions after his return home from Vietnam. Sampley calls himself “the one McCain hates most” and has a long history of battling McCain, including a conviction in the early 1990s for assaulting McCain aide Mark Salter.

“He has a false, media-created image of himself, and we want to correct that,” said Sampley, who publishes the U.S. Veteran Dispatch newspaper. The paper is not associated with the 527 and has endorsed Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.).

In a 2004 New York Times article, McCain called Sampley “one of the most despicable people I have ever had the misfortune to encounter.”

“I consider him a fraud who preys on the hopes of family members of missing servicemen for his own profit,” McCain said. “He is dishonorable, an enemy of the truth, and despite his claims, he does not speak for or represent the views of all but a few veterans.”
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as I read the name "Sampley" I quit reading.

This forum has always been my top choice on the www for integrity and insight. Maybe it's time for one of the "heavyweights" to reiterate our mission and the Rules of Engagement.

Obviously, we've been sucker-punched by The Hill.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected on one small point and I apologize.

The Drudge Report used its own headline for The Hill report, which caused my initial ire.

But given the widespread distribution of Drudge, I'm afraid the damage is done. I don't want to give any legs to Drudge, so do your own research if you're interested.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1991932 wrote:
As soon as I read the name "Sampley" I quit reading.

This forum has always been my top choice on the www for integrity and insight. Maybe it's time for one of the "heavyweights" to reiterate our mission and the Rules of Engagement.

Obviously, we've been sucker-punched by The Hill.


Somewhere on this BB, either the main forum or here in Gedunk, recently, BuffaloJack, posted something that I would call very close to what you are asking for.

Here it is from BuffaloJack:

Nobody gets it. Absolutely no one outside of the swifties understands us.
The SVPT is ONLY about keeping Kerry from public office. Nothing else.
The swifties will NOT be coming after Hillary, or Obama, or Edwards or anyone else. Kerry was a swifty; he brought shame upon the swiftvets; and it was up to the swifties to see that he wasn't rewarded with POTUS for his conduct in the early 70s. SVPT won't even go after Murtha, he was a marine. He is the marines' problem not ours.

Individual swifties may have their own personal opinions and act upon them, but they do so as individuals and not in the name of or with the support of SVPT.

Swifties are not all Republican Conservativess. We represent a mix much like our nation, and there are swifties of every political party within our ranks.
The press and the politicians never got it, still don't understand us and probably will never get it.

It was in the main Forum in thread titled: John O'Neill on Hannity and retard man Colmes
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Drudge caption, as well as the story reference will, initially, be assumed by most as referencing SVPT. That assumption is an erroneus one and would be corrected by a careful reading of the text of the story, but the Drudge headline and the author's reference are factually correct and cannot, IMHO, be faulted. In this case, I'm afraid that SVPT is a victim of its own success. I would suggest that a strong LTTE might be an appropriate response.

As far as the Sampley/McCain imbroglio is concerned, let me state categorically that the presentation of content designed to cast aspersions on John McCain's conduct while a Prisoner of War is inappropriate in this forum...period...and will be promptly deleted without comment. It is unfortunate that Senator McCain didn't see fit to afford 250+ courageous and honorable veterans that same level of consideration and respect.

'Nuff said.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF YOU WANT THE INFO ON mCCAIN DO A GOOGLE LIKE THIS
"TED GUY ON JOHN MCCAIN"
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