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shawa · CNO Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 2004

Friday, November 16, 2007
Kerry takes oilman Pickens up on $1 million Swift Boat challenge
By GLEN JOHNSON
AP Political Writer

BOSTON— Sen. John Kerry, whose 2004 presidential campaign was torpedoed by critics of his Vietnam War record, said Friday he has personally accepted Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens' offer of $1 million to anyone who can disprove even a single charge of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

Cont'd at http://www.telegram.com/article/20071116/APN/711160829
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BuffaloJack · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject:

Who is going to be the judge?
It certainly can't be anyone from Lurch's camp.
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PC · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject:

Here's the most irritating statement from that Telegram article:

While fellow veterans and reporters disproved many of the group's claims at the time, Kerry refused to air ads responding the criticism, and even his own response was muted for fear of legitimizing his critics' attacks.

So typical. The myth that the allegations of the Swiftvets have been debunked just keeps living on. Glen Johnson, the writer of the article, joins the long list of those in the MSM willing to carry Kerry's water by lying about the facts. I would be surprised if Mr Johnson didn't know the difference between disproving and/or debunking and just opposing opinions, which is all that took place.

Additionally, Mr Johnson expects the reader to believe that Kerry didn't aggressively respond to the allegations because he didn't want to legitimize the Swifties. The idiot lost the election because enough voters knew the Swiftboat claims were just that...legitimate.

And of course Mr Johnson works "swift-boated" into the article, although I see no need for the hyphenation.

DanVCC · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:40 am Post subject:

All Kerry has to do is sign an SF 180 and let the ball roll from there.

dusty · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:21 am Post subject:

We all know from the research Navy Chief and others in this group did on the after action reports that Kerry will attempt to use those records as his proof.
If accepted on the surface of them he might make a case.
He must think there is no one who can dissect those reports and show the truth that lies behind them. Boy is he wrong.
I sure look forward to watching this unfold but I think we also know he is just blowing smoke and there is no way he will carry through on his words.
He can not afford for the real truth to come out.

Dusty
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LewWaters · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:23 am Post subject:

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I have yet to read an exact quote of the comments made by Mr. Pickens. All I've seen are paraphrases already noted here.

I think it's appropriate to reserve comment until the nature of the challenge is specifically understood. You can be confident that Kerry will use any perceived rhetorical opening in an attempt to minimally comply with the stated terms as he spins it with the full backing of the MSM.

My guess is that speculation (at this point) that Kerry might somehow be compelled to unconditionally release his records to the public is widely off the mark.

As to this...

kate · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:06 am Post subject:

prnwswire> search>Pickens

Pickens full letter- short & sweet (most comments covered in the articles)

DALLAS, Nov. 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following is a copy of a letter mailed by T. Boone Pickens in response to a letter from U.S. Senator John Kerry regarding the Senator's military record and ads in the 2004 presidential election by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

mtboone · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:00 am Post subject:

kate · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:55 am Post subject:

baldeagle · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:51 am Post subject:

I also took note of the requests for records for that period, ya reckon there are any service record entries inre to the 2 trips to Paris and any official actions resulting therefrom? On second thought, I guess the discharge type might also address that item.
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