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shawa
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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: The one-two punch aimed at GOP conservatives |
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And another sage evaluation from James Lewis:
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The one-two punch aimed at GOP conservatives
By James Lewis
John McCain has had a hate-hate relationship with GOP conservatives for years, and has locked himself into that position with the McCain-Feingold assault on the First Amendment. The establishment media loved McCain-Feingold, because it made them the biggest power in the land in the weeks before Federal elections when candidate commercials are supposed to stop.
Mike Huckabee is a Southern populist, which means a socialist with a strong social conservative message, like Jimmy Carter. The media have been on the side of both Huckabee and McCain. Just think of what that means. Think.
The one-two punch of McCain and Huckabee is aimed at the conservative base of the GOP. It is designed to wrest party leadership away from the conservative coalition that has more-or-less controlled it since Ronald Reagan: vigilant on defense, strong on social issues, free market-oriented in economics. The Huckabee-McCain gambit is calculated to drive the party leadership to the Left. It will divide the head of the party from the body......
Cont'd at American Thinker |
The realist in me says that it comes down to Mitt or Rudy.
As much as I LOVE FRED, he just isn't lighting a fire.
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: The one-two punch aimed at GOP conservatives |
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| shawa wrote: | | As much as I LOVE FRED, he just isn't lighting a fire. |
Can't argue with that I'm afraid, but I'm hoping that will change as this field gets winnowed down...and Fred appears to have a gameplan that almost HAD to anticipate this uphill climb. Will it work? Time will tell...but at least his campaign is still financially strong enough to stay the course. |
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Anker-Klanker
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Patience, patience, patience... This primary season is FAR too long, and there's lots of time yet for major changes in the political dynamics. MSM and all the political junkies (of both sides) are doing everyone a disservice (IMHO) for treating the very earliest primary states as the actual contest. Seldom mentioned is that neither Iowa nor New Hampshire have many delegates, and neither can be shown (except for their own self-serving claims) to represent the average electorate.
Stay tuned... Lots of new revelations and dynamics to occur in the next few months. |
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Theresa Alwood
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Unlike most republicans I have yet to make up my mind as to whom I am voting for. I was leaning towards Fred Thompson, there are two who I will not vote for in the primary and that is Huckabee and McCain....I like Mitt Romney and Rudy, so we will see come Feb 5th as to who I will place my vote to.
It is very early for anyone to call the nomination. If I remember correctly it was Howard Dean who took both Iowa and NH and did not even get the nomination. So the MSM needs to back off and let the people decide.
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GenrXr
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| Theresa Alwood wrote: | Unlike most republicans I have yet to make up my mind as to whom I am voting for. I was leaning towards Fred Thompson, there are two who I will not vote for in the primary and that is Huckabee and McCain....I like Mitt Romney and Rudy, so we will see come Feb 5th as to who I will place my vote to.
It is very early for anyone to call the nomination. If I remember correctly it was Howard Dean who took both Iowa and NH and did not even get the nomination. So the MSM needs to back off and let the people decide. |
I believe Dean finished third to Kerry and Edwards in Iowa, a poor showing later attributed to negative campaigning against Gephardt.
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Me#1You#10
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| GenrXr wrote: | | I believe Dean finished third to Kerry and Edwards in Iowa... |
Ya know, it hadn't occured to me that, perhaps, we owe a debt of gratitude to Howard "The Scream" Dean. Had it not been for his bizzarro post-loss demeanor, he might have gone on to recover some semblance of dignity along with a reinvigoration of his campaign surge. Had that occured, SVPT would have been denied the opportunity to serve up a dish that was 33 years in the making and very, very cold. |
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LewWaters
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| Quote: | | So the MSM needs to back off and let the people decide. |
That is one of the main problems. The lamestream media has been cherry picking who we get to choose from the beginning. Be it in debates or favorable coverage, they have chosen their sweethearts and we are to follow along like good little sheeple.
Our state Republican caucus is in February, where I'll be pitching Duncan Hunter as I have been.
For me, the only two real conservatives running are Hunter and Thompson.
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GenrXr
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| Me#1You#10 wrote: | | GenrXr wrote: | | I believe Dean finished third to Kerry and Edwards in Iowa... |
Ya know, it hadn't occured to me that, perhaps, we owe a debt of gratitude to Howard "The Scream" Dean. Had it not been for his bizzarro post-loss demeanor, he might have gone on to recover some semblance of dignity along with a reinvigoration of his campaign surge. Had that occured, SVPT would have been denied the opportunity to serve up a dish that was 33 years in the making and very, very cold. |
Very good point.
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| LewWaters wrote: | | Quote: | | So the MSM needs to back off and let the people decide. |
That is one of the main problems. The lamestream media has been cherry picking who we get to choose from the beginning. Be it in debates or favorable coverage, they have chosen their sweethearts and we are to follow along like good little sheeple.
Our state Republican caucus is in February, where I'll be pitching Duncan Hunter as I have been.
For me, the only two real conservatives running are Hunter and Thompson. |
It is disgusting.
Victor Davis Hanson,
| Quote: | | A final note: The campaign talking heads and opinion makers this season have been lousy, about the worst in memory — especially the “she’s won, she’s lost, she’s won...” feeding frenzy, and then writing the silly “end of the Clinton era” essays — all based on a few thousand Iowans, some bad polls in New Hampshire, and catch-up to what some other wrong pundit wrote an hour earlier. And remember, these are “experts” who pontificated each week on the real Iraq war. |
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Theresa Alwood
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Well it is hard this election because I want someone who WILL beat both Hilary and Obama....I was very excited when Fred Thompson declared to run...but I want someone who is willing to fight for it. I am tired of conservatives who make excuses for being conservative. There is nothing wrong with that. I am hoping Fred will come out swinging in S.C., but when it comes to voteing in the primary...I am still leaning towards Fred, but I just wish he would start fighting and fighting hard. We need a strong candidate who will take Hilary head on as I still think she will be the one to beat as Obama just is still realing from the Oprah factor.
I will be honest I am a little disgusted with some of the women in this country who are only voting for Hilary because she is a women! Please! I always vote on the issues never the gender, race or religion and I am not a one issue voter...meaning that I would not tay home and not vote if
Rudy gets the nomination. Rudy would still be better over Hilary or Obama any day of the week.
Really we just need a strong conservative push for everyone to get out and vote!!!!
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