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dusty Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1264 Location: East Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: SS questions woman over alleged Obama threat |
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No doubt his detention (Corsi) is related to Obama. Read this on Yahoo new this morning so the story will be mainstream.
Just got this in an email this morning. Don't know the veracity of it but if it's true then it fits right along with this news from Kenya. Except this is from right here in America.
Quote: | Dear Friends: We have had some interesting things going on our street this week but this "takes the cake". The election is less than a month away - people need to be aware of this information of the tactics that have been used this week on my neighbor. This is not a political agenda I am on, this is a matter of principle. She is not a 'mental case nor political activist' just your everyday young Mom with small children and a husband out of the military. If this is the kind of "change" Mr. Obama is referring to, we are definitely in for more than what has met the eye. What has happened here is not only appalling but frightening to think we may no longer have the freedom to speak against "the powers that be" without the Secret Service showing up at your door. Keeping in mind, there is no taped conversation - simply a disgruntled volunteer who was not getting the response she was looking for. Jessica has contacted several politicians and news organizations - some who have told her "this is out of my jurisdiction". Please! Enough is enough - I for one will stand behind this young woman and notify every person I can possibly think of to make people aware of this travesty! I hope you will forward this on as well to as many people as you possibly can - especially to our elected officials and news organizations. Feel free to email me for verification. Connie Wells
On Wednesday the 1st of October I received a call on my cell while in the car with my husband. It was a woman who identified herself as calling from the Obama Campaign. The phone # she called from was 903-798-6020 which lists as "Obama Volunteers of Texarkana" (Texas).
She asked if I was an Obama supporter to which I replied:
"No, I don't support him, your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the State Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time." I hung up.
Thursday, October 2, I answered the front door to find the Secret Service. Immediately I thought of the call and was furious that apparently you are not allowed to call Obama a Socialist without the Secret Service coming to investigate. Instead, they asked me about the following comment, relayed by the Obama Volunteer of Texarkana who called me, unsolicited on my cell phone:
"I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor."
My husband laughed and told them ?No, she called him a socialist but she never said a word about him dying.? I gave them my actual quote. The woman asked insolently ?Oh? Well why would she make that up??
I replied that I supposed she wasn?t happy about what I said about her candidate and the Agent said ?That?s right, you were rude!? The last time I checked being rude wasn?t a crime in America.
Luckily the big file they had gathered on me didn't indicate mental instability or a past life of stalking/crime, however they did want to know how I felt about Obama. That was my limit. I told the Agent in no uncertain terms that my thoughts were not pertinent to their investigation, that this was America and the last time I checked I was allowed to think whatever I wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. In fact, even if I had said what she claimed, that isn't a threat. I told them (again) and my husband verified that the statement reported by Obama's volunteer was a lie. I asked them if there was a tape of the call and they said no. I said, "So on the word of a ticked off Obama supporter you are on my porch with no other evidence and you want to question me about my THOUGHTS!?"
They informed me that there was no evidence she was an Obama supporter?someone calling from his campaign?are you kidding?
I was not allowed to know the name of my accuser at which point they informed me that it wasn't like I was in a court of law, YET, as if this was a good thing. I recognized this as a veiled threat. I told them I would happily go to court since I did nothing wrong and at least then my accuser would have to face me rather than sending the thought police to my house.
They then said they were trying to do me a favor, that they came to me first before ?embarrassing you by going to all your neighbors and family?, another threat? I told them to be my guest and talk to whomever they wanted but they weren?t going to investigate my thoughts on my porch.
They also informed me that it would be easier if the next time a supporter calls me I just say "Yeah sure count me in, or just hang up" apparently so she won't get her undies in a bundle and give them more useless trips. Yeah right. I said "Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate and I can't tell them why I don't?" I said I was sorry they made a wasted trip but if they had a problem with some made up lie they needed to go talk to her about it because it wasn't my fault they had to drive from Houston for nothing.
At one point I went inside and got a notepad to record their badge numbers and they refused to show me their badges. They had done the quick flip when they arrived. I asked for a card and the female Agent refused to give me one stating ?You?re not going to get a card.? The male Agent gave me a card and told me I could contact Houston with any questions.
The fact that the volunteer lied, the fact that the Secret Service came to my house to question me about my thoughts and feelings and threaten to embarrass me to my neighbors and go to court if I didn?t cooperate is not really the tragedy here. Because that girl on the phone doesn?t have the pull to send the Secret Service to my home. Someone high in the ranks of a campaign working for a man who may be the next President of the United States of America felt comfortable bringing the force of the Federal Government to bear on a private citizen on nothing but the word of a partisan volunteer.
I want to file a counter complaint that false charges were made, that a false report was given to a peace officer. The Secret Service told me I cannot because they will protect the identity of the complainant. I also want the file they have on me destroyed and I want to know that my phone isn?t tapped, etcetera. I am hearing a lot of ?Out of my Jurisdiction?.
Do I also hear jackboots?
Jessica Hughes
Lufkin, Texas
Note: I have contacted several news organizations, Rep Gohmert, Sen Hutchison, the Atty General, Local Police
Will keep you updated, pass it along. | [/code]
note: Dusty, this story is confirmed (see below) and I have given it its own topic. Thanks/me#1 _________________ Left and Wrong are the opposite of Right!
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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This is legitimate...unbelievable...
Quote: | Secret Service questions Lufkin woman over alleged Obama threat
By JESSICA SAVAGE
Cox News Service
Oct. 6, 2008, 6:13PM
LUFKIN — A Lufkin woman received a surprise visit from the Secret Service last week because of a “death threat” comment she reportedly made about Sen. Barack Obama to a campaign volunteer asking for her support of the presidential candidate.
Two federal agents arrived at Jessica Hughes’ home Thursday to ask her if she said, “I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor.”
Hughes said her words were deliberately twisted by a volunteer who was apparently unhappy Hughes was rude during a phone conversation. The Lufkin mother, a Republican, said she received a call on her cellphone Wednesday from a woman with the Obama Volunteers of Texarkana.
“She asked if I was an Obama supporter, to which I replied, ‘No, I don’t support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time.’ (And then) I hung up.”
Houston Chronicle - cont'd |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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An obvious error, the story didn't address him as comrade Obama. _________________ No whiners! |
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, Obamessiah sure can multi-task: Gets the authorities in Kenya to grab Corsi so he can't hold a news conference and also gets the Secret Service to harrass a lady in Texas for telling her unsolicited Obamabot she doesn't worship at their altar. The only thing missing is background music and video with the "Obama Youth" from Kansas City marching and chanting and the "Obama Zombie Kids" in California singing angelically....and maybe some 9/11 video for good measure. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ohmigosh, I wasn't believing this was true while I read it! This can't happen in America, can it? I think I'm in shock. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | Ohmigosh, I wasn't believing this was true while I read it! This can't happen in America, can it? I think I'm in shock. |
Look at the authorities in Missouri wanting to stifle free speech if anyone said something negative about Obama. This was so blatant that Missouri Governor Matt Blunt denounced it as an affront to free speech.
If he is elected, we will all feel the heel of Obama's boot on our neck. _________________ No whiners! |
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dusty Admiral
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks #1. I was wondering where my post of this on the other thread went.
Lufkin is only 45 mi. away from where I live in E. Tx.
This is hitting close to home.
While I can understand the S.S. checking out death threats on a candidate I can't understand how they can go accost a citizen on an unsubstantiated report like that.
And the idea that these solicitation calls aren't recorded rings pretty hollow with me plus the refusal of the S.S. agents to give out their service numbers and names I have a major problem with.
I'm sure hoping the AOL Straw Poll figures come out to be right in Nov.
Obama is right about one thing.....he does represent change. Change that scares the tar out of me. _________________ Left and Wrong are the opposite of Right! |
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I B Squidly Vice Admiral
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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My Japanese friend said he couldn't translate "F*** Off and die" in Kangi; it made no sense. Rather to say "Break your head on tofu and die." The understanding was that were your head soft enough to break on tofu you were f'ed. Supporting Obama is like that. _________________ "KILL ALL THE LAWYERS!"
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Next up on the Gestapo's list is a sheriff in Florida whose "crime" was to use Obama's full name, Barack Hussein Obama, and now he is under investigation for possible violation of the Hatch Act. He could be removed from office and/or lose $300,000 from the feds needed to buy equipment and gear.
...meanwhile Sheriffs and Prosecuting Attorneys in Missouri are forming a "Truth Squad for Obama" to go after anyone trying to air ads that are unfavorable to Obama...under the guise that this "Truth Squad" will determine what is true and what is false.
Did we go through a time warp and are now living in the old Soviet Union or Nazi Germany? This is just a preview of life in an "Obama-nation".
Feds investigating sheriff after 'Hussein' remark
Quote: | LEE COUNTY: Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott may have more to worry about than just the court of public opinion. Federal investigators are now looking into whether Scott broke the law by campaigning for John McCain.
Officials with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel say they have received so many phone calls from the public that they launched an investigation into Sheriff Scott on Tuesday.
The question is - did he use his position as sheriff to influence an election? If so, he could be in violation of a federal election law called the Hatch Act.
The Lee County Sheriff's Office receives more than $1 million in federal grant money from everything from human trafficking to bullet proof vests.
But if Sheriff Scott is found in violation of the Hatch Act, the feds can pull two years salary worth of federal funding - the equivalent to $300,000 for the Lee County Sheriff's Office.
Another possibility is removal from office.
Regarding the federal investigation, Sheriff Scott sent us this statement:
"I am on duty 24/7 and 365 whether in or out of uniform. Like every other elected official, I am aware of from President to Governor to State Representatives, etc. We engage in political activities whether for ourselves as candidates or for others. As of this writing, I am unaware of having done anything to generate all this attention other than using the senator's full name."
We should also point out that Bill Cameron in Charlotte County and Kevin Rambosk in Collier County were both reassigned to avoid violating the Hatch Act.
Cameron is still under investigation.
As for how long Scott's investigation will take, the feds say they'd like to have all of the Hatch Act cases wrapped up before the November election.
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