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integritycounts Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Substantiation for the first PH
The requests for the Bronze Star and Silver Star. (Not the citations, the requests)
The two different versions of the Bronze and the three different versions of the Silver Star citations.
A page of the fitrep by CDR Streuli.
Those are the ones that I can think of, offhand. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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air_vet PO2
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Which documents are not included on Kerry's Site? |
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integritycounts wrote: | If there is a subset of records which are missing, it would help me to understand what Form 180 is needing. |
There is nothing to prove that the listed sets of information are complete.
In addition, I especially want to see the records for the 4 years he was required to be in the IRR (Individual Ready Reserve) after leaving EAD (extended active duty). |
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integritycounts Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks....MediaMatters...a website delivering its own propaganda for their political agenda....is claiming that Kerry has released all of His records...when I went to the kerry site it did seem to have more documents than the first time I looked.
"Media Matters for America has put in place a system to monitor the media for conservative misinformation – every day, in real time -- in 2004 and beyond."
MediaMatters sounds like an well funded political institution designed to monitor the free speech of those on its "enemy list" and extract retribution via a campaign against individuals with differing views, in order to repress, limit and induce conformity of individuals with views not in line with their doctrine/agenda.
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200408170001
Coulter and Limbaugh accused Kerry of refusing to release military records; they're posted on his website
On August 16, radio host Rush Limbaugh, radio host and Landmark Legal Foundation president Mark R. Levin, and right-wing pundit Ann Coulter all falsely accused Senator John Kerry (D-MA) of refusing to release his military records. On The Rush Limbaugh Show -- for the second time in less than a week -- Limbaugh advised Kerry to release his records in order to refute recent attacks by anti-Kerry group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. During his WABC radio show, Levin echoed this claim, saying, "All I know is, John Kerry can clear it all up. Just release his records like he told Tim Russert he would. But he won't." And on FOX News Channel's Hannity & Colmes, Coulter urged Kerry to release his records to provide "a little more detail about ... these alleged Purple Hearts." She also added another lie, saying Kerry "won't release his tax records."
Kerry began posting his Naval records on www.johnkerry.com -- the official website of Kerry-Edwards '04 -- two days after his April 18 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press, during which Tim Russert asked Kerry if he would "release all your [his] military records." As Media Matters for America noted on August 13, Kerry's official Naval records (including medals and citations), after-action combat reports, and command history for Coastal Division 11 may now all be viewed on www.johnkerry.com.
A summary of Kerry's military medical records -- released by Dr. Gerald J. Doyle on April 23 -- is also posted on the site. As MMFA pointed out, the Kerry campaign noted, upon releasing the summarized records, that "[w]hen the U.S. Navy sent Kerry his official Naval records, his military medical records were not included. Kerry reconstituted the military medical records from his personal files." |
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kmudd Master Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe any orders he had to go into Cambobia ? Or orders for the time peroid of which he claims he was in Cambodia. |
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Sisku Hanne Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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"Kerry reconstituted the military medical records from his personal files."
Riiiight. |
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hanna Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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A response to an article in Views, in the Philadelphia Daily News, August 17, 2004
A debate concerning Kerry’s military service can certainly be undertaken but we must first set the stage for the debate.
1. Whatever Bush did or did not do has nothing to do with this. This is not a contest of who is best or who is worst. It is an examination of the character and integrity of John Kerry.
2. Who authored or co-authored the book Unfit for Command, is an irrelevant and lame attempt at avoiding the issues. Did Mr. Brinkley serve with Mr. Kerry in Vietnam? No of course not, so does that disqualify him from writing Tour of Duty, outlining Senator Kerry’s adventures in Vietnam? No, of course of doesn’t, he wrote the book because he is a talented and successful writer, not because he fought in a war.
3. You vilify the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth because a co-author has made some stupid remarks, and cannot accept the fact that he is a co-author simply because he is a talented writer, yet John Hurley who has been front and center supporting Senator Kerry, marched with Mr. Kerry in the Vietnam Veterans Against the War back in the 70’s.
4. It also appears that if a Republican donates money to a cause, other than your own, then they are doing so only to promote the Republican agenda. People are not allowed to have issues of their own unless they are tied to a political party, which is a ludicrous idea. If it is not, then beware Red Cross. If a Republican sends you money, you will be vilified.
5. By the same standard, only books, published by who support Democrats and Democratic causes are worthy of consideration.
6. You insist that President Bush renounce the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, yet Kerry and the Kerry camp refuse to renounce Michael Moore, Whoopie Goldberg, and Richard Clark.
7. Your contention that President Bush has the authority or the right to demand that the Swift Boat Vets for Truth pull the ad flies in the face of your constant blathering about loss of individual rights. To think that anyone would presume to think that the President, no matter who he is, could or would attempt to do such a thing is both horrifying and preposterous. But lo and behold, Kerry just did just that. Is that what we have to look forward to if Senator Saddam…oops, I mean Kerry, is President?
It seems that a person is not qualified to write a book, to publish a book, donate to a cause or to speak unless they proclaim themselves to be democrats.
Now that the above issues have been addressed, you should take the time to read the book and we can discuss that next week. In the meantime, ask your friend Senator Kerry to release ALL of his military records and his journals, which were the basis for Tour of Duty.
A short list of missing documents include:
Substantiation for the first Purple Heart.
The requests for the Bronze Star and Silver Star. (Not the citations, the requests)
The two different versions of the Bronze and the three different versions of the Silver Star citations
A page of the fitrep by CDR Streuli. |
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Doc Jerry Commander
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Nice piece of work Hanna in response to the Philadelphia rag. |
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