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So the flood gates are open? Good. Let's Roll.
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Stealthy,
Not so fast. This is only good if we can debunk the story immediately (while adding that it does show that Kerry fled after PCF-3 hit a mine). Even the WaPo admits that Kerry did not witness much of the action.
We must get everyone to understand that Thurow did not say he was under enemy fire ever. That means that the after action report and the authorship have to be determined...and the only way that can be done is with a Standard Form 180 for the National Archives.
This must be done fast or the story will bury us. That is exactly the intent. There is no fairness involved here. The WaPo is trying to bury us.
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| Didn't the AP also pick up the story about Jerome Corsi a story that lasted about two days?What's also interesting about this story is that it also shows that Kerry fled the scene of battle just as SBVT has maintained. |
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ASPB
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Write to Dobbs and ask him how Kerry and his crew know there was fire if they were 5000 yards (2 1/2 NM) downstream before they returned?
It should also be noted that the Bronze Star citation uses the phrase "5000 metres" to describe the area under fire. This is interesting in that the USN doesn't use the term metre or even the english meter.
The Navy uses yards and nautical miles. a nautical mile is 6086 feet thus approximately 2000 yards. Thus 5000 yards equals 2.5 Nautical Miles.
Does it seem likely to any you that the writer may have been educated in French and Swiss schools in his formative years? Think about it......
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| Polaris wrote: | | This must be done fast or the story will bury us. That is exactly the intent. There is no fairness involved here. The WaPo is trying to bury us. |
Please be careful with the response. Kerry came out with 4 different versions of being in or near Cambodia. This flip flopping lost him a lot of credibility. |
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| ASPB wrote: | | Write to Dobbs and ask him how Kerry and his crew know there was fire if they were 5000 yards (2 1/2 NM) downstream before they returned? |
Good point! 
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| Polaris wrote: | Stealthy,
Not so fast. This is only good if we can debunk the story immediately (while adding that it does show that Kerry fled after PCF-3 hit a mine). Even the WaPo admits that Kerry did not witness much of the action.
We must get everyone to understand that Thurow did not say he was under enemy fire ever. That means that the after action report and the authorship have to be determined...and the only way that can be done is with a Standard Form 180 for the National Archives.
This must be done fast or the story will bury us. That is exactly the intent. There is no fairness involved here. The WaPo is trying to bury us. |
The truth is enough. It's too late to wait a minute. You have Wapo and The Nyt's hitting today. That means the networks follow tomorrow with the same crap. It's time to fire back or get buried and yes, that's exactly what these partisan hack papers are doing. They need to come out of the closet like McGreevey did or be outed.
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ASPB,
| Quote: | It should also be noted that the Bronze Star citation uses the phrase "5000 metres" to describe the area under fire. This is interesting in that the USN doesn't use the term metre or even the english meter.
The Navy uses yards and nautical miles. a nautical mile is 6086 feet thus approximately 2000 yards. Thus 5000 yards equals 2.5 Nautical Miles.
Does it seem likely to any you that the writer may have been educated in French and Swiss schools in his formative years? Think about it...... |
This is a fantastic observation! It likely wouldn't be considered as hard evidence, but still damning nonetheless (I wonder if there were croissant stains on the paperwork). Good job.
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Plagiarize it and write to the press, especially the hack at the Post. I'm working on the Alston matter.......
It's the kind of intellectualism hacks thrive on! 
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| Polaris wrote: | the story will bury us.
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Sounds like Kruschev and his first. How does that bury you? Thurlow wasn't the only witness to events, that day. And the Wash Post/AP have been careful not to say that the citation mentions enemy fire. Thurlow is saying it doesn't, as it was probably read to him when he received it. As I understand it, when the 'spot reports' came in a few months ago, no one had seen those, except for Kerry. It is interesting, too, that this particular writer did not give Kerry credit for two explosions, AND had him fleeing the scene, unlike the other three boats which went to the aid of the 3 boat and the men in the water. |
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| Quote: | | It is interesting, too, that this particular writer did not give Kerry credit for two explosions, AND had him fleeing the scene, unlike the other three boats which went to the aid of the 3 boat and the men in the water. |
As posted in another thread, AP conveniently edited out the "fleeing the scene" part.
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Just demand the after action reports filed by Kerry and his medical records. The leftist media won't, but it will get out too. FOIA works both ways, or it damn sure oughta.
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