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kate Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:07 am Post subject: John Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists |
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Vietnam Veterans for the Truth via WinterSoldier.com ^ | May 31, 2004 |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145322/posts
May 31, 2004 -- Dr. Jerry Corsi and Jeff Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth report that John Kerry's photograph is featured in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City -- a clear indication of the value the Vietnamese communists place on Kerry's support of their efforts during the Vietnam War. The photograph was received in response to a general request last week for information documenting Kerry’s activities on behalf of the enemy.
John O'Neill will be breaking this story on Michael Savage at 7pm Eastern. The press releases go out tomorrow morning. Vietnam Veterans for the Truth wanted this story out on the Net tonight, on Memorial Day.
>Story & more photos at
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545
John Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists
Communist Vietnamese Honor John Kerry, the War Protestor, as a Hero in the Communist Victory over the United States in the Vietnam War.
In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War. The photograph shows then-Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor Kerry being greeted by the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do Muoi.
Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the photograph over the Memorial Day weekend as America was commemorating its military heroes. Epstein’s organization, Vietnam Vets for the Truth, had issued a general request last week for photographs documenting Kerry’s activities on behalf of the enemy. Bob Shirley, a Vietnam Swift Boat veteran (www.pcf45.com), sent the photograph to Epstein in response to that call. Shirley recently joined over 200 other Swift Boat in signing an open letter stating that Kerry is "...not fit to be commander-in-chief."
Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, in Vietnam, July 18, 1983. Photo taken in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the "War Crimes Museum") in Saigon in May 2004. ~
Jeff Epstein explains the importance of the photograph:
"This photograph's unquestionable significance lies in its placement in the American protestors' section of the War Crimes Museum in Saigon. The Vietnamese communists clearly recognize John Kerry's contributions to their victory. This find can be compared to the discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a place of honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945." _________________ .
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Marine4life Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 591 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Lets start a petition to have Kerry tried for his crime of TREASON. It is my understanding that there is no statute of limitations for treason. Semper Fi. _________________ Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes. |
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kate Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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According to the timeline at the wintersoldiers site
May 1970
Kerry met with Madam Win Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG) -- the political wing of the Vietcong -- and with representatives of Hanoi
June, 1970
Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina.....Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
Interesting coincidence _________________ .
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sparky Former Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Probably more of the usual fun-with-Kerry-and-Photoshop. It's probably as legitimate as the book that Greenhat just can't get around to finding. |
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Marine4life Senior Chief Petty Officer
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Wow, glad I have my boots on. Conspiracy theories once again. Step over him and keep on truck'n. _________________ Helicopter Marine Attack Squadron 169 which is now HMLA-169. They added Huey's to compliment the Cobra effectiveness. When I served we just had Snakes. |
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sparky Former Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:06 am Post subject: |
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It could have passed for a conspiracy theory until the owner of the original photos, Corbis, got really pissed.
The legitimacy of the picture even made it to the official urban myths site, Snopes.com:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp
A similar response came about from that doctored photo of Kerry in front of a Vietcong flag. It made the rounds among freeper-type people who presented it as legitimate. |
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LewWaters Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, Spark, but the snopes article only discusses the photo we all know was fabricated, Hanoi Jane and John together at a podium.
However, since they often spoke at the same rally, do you really believe they never actually met? C'mon, even a lefty can see through that. Besides, if he is proud of follwoing his conscience back then, why would he be embarrassed at having met her? Why would they distance themselves from each other?
You seem to feel that anything you disagree with is now an Urban Myth. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:12 am Post subject: |
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sparky wrote: | It could have passed for a conspiracy theory until the owner of the original photos, Corbis, got really pissed.
The legitimacy of the picture even made it to the official urban myths site, Snopes.com:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerry2.asp
A similar response came about from that doctored photo of Kerry in front of a Vietcong flag. It made the rounds among freeper-type people who presented it as legitimate. |
Poor sparky. You know damn good and well that this is no PhotoShopped effort, much as you wish otherwise.
More crap is falling on your candidate by the hour - a crap-avalanche, as it were.
The photo of Kerry in front of a VC flag? Perfectly legit.
The VC flag is the flag he marched under - no reason in the world not to put it behind him as a background! _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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sparky Former Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Surely you guys could find just one picture of him "marching under" a VC flag. Why bother doctoring photos if it was so common?
As for whether Kerry met Fonda, I don't know and actually don't care. But I do care about phony pictures suckering voters, including the one with Kerry speaking in front of a VC flag. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:49 am Post subject: |
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sparky wrote: | Surely you guys could find just one picture of him "marching under" a VC flag. |
So, you're saying that because no one's come up with a picture from the same march that does not include both Kerry and the VC flag, that he never marched under it? _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
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LewWaters Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Hey, I know. This whole Kerry was a protester must be an Urban Myth too Come to think of it, bet the pics of Hanoi jane sitting on an antiaircraft gun in Hanoi are an Urban Myth also, huh? |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:00 am Post subject: |
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LewWaters wrote: | Hey, I know. This whole Kerry was a protester must be an Urban Myth too Come to think of it, bet the pics of Hanoi jane sitting on an antiaircraft gun in Hanoi are an Urban Myth also, huh? |
You may have just stolen sparky's next line, Lew.
That's where he wants it all to go - that vast land of "urban myth." _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
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PhuCat to Phu Quoc Lt.Jg.
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 110 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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sparky wrote: | Probably more of the usual fun-with-Kerry-and-Photoshop. It's probably as legitimate as the book that Greenhat just can't get around to finding. |
The Vietnamese communists have Photoshop?
sparky, why don't you just send an e-mail of your latest profound observation to Jeff Epstein (Jepstein02@snet.net) and Jerome Corsi (jcorsi@wintersoldier.com) and tell them that they and Bill Lupetti are all "liars and hypocrites", to borrow a phrase from John Kerry's kindred spirit Jane Fonda.
"Photographer Bill Lupetti, who is currently visiting Vietnam, took the photographs in Saigon during his recent visit there. Lupetti, a former Hospital Corpsman, is also a Swift Boat veteran."
I re-dub thee sparkless. |
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DougReese Former Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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PhuCat to Phu Quoc wrote: | sparky wrote: | Probably more of the usual fun-with-Kerry-and-Photoshop. It's probably as legitimate as the book that Greenhat just can't get around to finding. |
The Vietnamese communists have Photoshop?
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Sure do. They pretty much have everything in that regards.
Doug |
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sparky Former Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Folks, with all the urban myths intended to discredit Kerry that have been debunked, including deceptive Photoshop work, a reasonable person just can't accept any more incriminating pictures without some sort of legitimate authentication. That means someone besides some member of Free Republic. |
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