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The line-up that day?

 
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sevry
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:38 am    Post subject: The line-up that day? Reply with quote

I'm still confused about which boats where there on 13 MAR 1969.

As I understand it, Thurlow was OIC of 51. Chenoweth was on 23, with O'Dell as the gunner up in the 'tub'. Droz, just only later killed, was 43. Pease commanded the ill-fated 3 boat. And Kerry, 94.

They were in a canal with a 'wier' or fishing net drawn across which allowed the boats to just clear on either side, a natural place for a mine as well, I would think. Chenoweth led Kerry to the right. Pease led Thurlow who led Droz to the left. Thurlow was the Officer in Tactical Command.

Is that true, as far as anyone knows? On Hannity, 19 AUG, O'Neill spoke of four officers, then six, as witnesses. If Droz was one, there could only be three surviving, less Kerry. What was he talking about on Hannity?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

graphic of the event from the washington post's viewpoint, with the players

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/graphics/swiftboat_082104.html
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kate wrote:
graphic of the event from the washington post's viewpoint, with the players

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/graphics/swiftboat_082104.html


They're calling it an ambush, that the watermine was remotely triggered. Is that what the Swift vets are also saying?

They have Kerry ahead of Droz. But I thought Chenoweth led Kerry to the right. They spell Pease as Pees?

They say Chenoweth came up to assist PCF-3 along with Thurlow. But didn't Chenoweth go to fish the men from the water, and it was Droz who got on the other side of the 3 boat to help stabilize it?

Was Thurlow the Officer in Tactical Command? Was Pease?

They show Alston up on Kerry's 'gun tub'. Wasn't it rather Frederick Short?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I thought Pees was spelled, Pease. Anyone know for sure? I used Pees at a first attempt to understand this. I'll probably upload a follow-up 'Rassman on Rassman', for what anyone would think such might be worth. But it does seem to me, at any rate, as if Rassman made it up. It's just so at odds with the sworn testimonies of others.

And I just got the book, today. And sure enough, unlike the Post diagram, it says Chenoweth's 23 led Kerry to the right of the net. So Kerry literally had to speed around him to flee the suspected ambush. Droz tails Thurlow who tailed Pease (?). That's how I had understood it, previously, basically guessing as to where Droz went. I wonder why the Post thought Cheoweth and Droz switched sides on the net? Are the 'Swifties' now saying that's how it really happened?
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