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Oragomi
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 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:36 am Post subject: Removed material - Whitley Strieber |
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Admin Note: The Swifts are not obligated in any way to host slanderous speculation about them.
They are not obligated in any way to host material which supports John Kerry.
Your post is out of line on both counts.
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Scott
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The whackos (Streiber et al.) have come out in force!
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You GottaBeKidding
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| The Rood information didn't contradict much of anything except whether the victim was an adult or a teenager or how he is dressed. |
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tvaughan
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| Quote: | | In other words, John will have gained power by lying. In a strong, moral nation, that could not happen. The people would reject the lies and make quick work of him. Instead, he will be honored. |
Now, with everything we have learned, which John is he talking about?
Morally, we are all on the same page as Mr. Streiber. No one wants an opportunistic liar as President of the United States.
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Navy_Navy_Navy
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And just exactly which parts do think were, as you say, "well written," Oragomi?
The parts that speculate in a slanderous method about John O'Neill's motives?
Or the parts that gloss over John Kerry's anti-war activities and work as communist propaganda-spreader?
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air_vet
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Whitley Strieber Speaks out |
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| Oragomi wrote: | The following is an interesting Post by Whitley Strieber of Alien Abduction Fame Speaking out on his website":
"As the war progressed and morale spun down, soldiers began to do as little fighting as they could. Officers included. The military responded by making Purple Hearts easier to get, in the hope that soldiers would try for them--that is to say, actually fight. " |
Even if that is true (and I'll let others debate that), it didn't apply to candidate Kerry's time in-country - '68 was still fairly early in the war.
If I remember correctly the morale problems started when the anti-war groups (like the VVAW) really got going. I was in grad school 69-71 and that's the time things were REALLY nasty on campus.
Yes, there were US student demonstrations during my '67 time in-country - but mostly about "free love" and flowers.
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Chuck54
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| Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | And just exactly which parts do think were well written, Origamo?
The parts that speculate in a slanderous method about John O'Neill's motives?
Or the parts that gloss over John Kerry's anti-war activities and work as communist propaganda-spreader? |
You got him pegged Navy, he is a tricky one. The trolls are starting to adjust their tactics in order to appear credible so they won't get zotted so quickly. Very clever they are, but not clever enough.
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Beatrice1000
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| Appears he's just using the fact that he knew John (if he did) to catch attention and then link into his dem talking pts. -- as if knowing John gives his opinions a reason to be read. This is just nuts. I suppose a lot of folk will be crawling out of the cracks. |
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:56 am Post subject: Re: Removed material - Whitley Strieber |
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| Oragomi wrote: | Admin Note: The Swifts are not obligated in any way to host slanderous speculation about them.
They are not obligated in any way to host material which supports John Kerry.
Your post is out of line on both counts.
Whitley Strieber! Good Lord! |
John is a superb lawyer, and he is using his lawyer's skill with the language to make a false argument. Unfortunately, while law can prepare a man well for politics, taking this type of legal skill into the political area is irresponsible and, frankly, reveals the sort of 'win at any cost' moral decadence that we see to much of in modern American politics.
WRONG.
It is EXACTLY the attention to fine detail and logic exhibited by a good lawyer that is needed in politics, as compared to the intellectual mush all too often found there.
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