SwiftVets.com Forum Index SwiftVets.com
Service to Country
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Senators' Letter to Dubya--and How He Should Respond
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    SwiftVets.com Forum Index -> Swift Vets and POWs for Truth
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Doc Farmer
LCDR


Joined: 07 Aug 2004
Posts: 442
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Senators' Letter to Dubya--and How He Should Respond Reply with quote


Senators' Letter to Dubya--and How He Should Respond
Written by Doc Farmer
Thursday, August 26, 2004



Editor’s Note: Yesterday, former senator and wounded Vietnam veteran Max Cleland went to Crawford, Texas, to deliver a letter written by seven Senators (who also were veterans), to ask President Bush to condemn the actions of the 527 committee, ''Swift Boat Veterans For Truth.'' Their letter is immediately below. Our resident curmudgeon, Doc Farmer, read the letter and wondered how President Bush might wish to respond. Here’s what he came up with [the text in blue]....)

Quote:

Dear President Bush,

We, the undersigned members of the United States Senate call on you to specifically condemn the recent attack ads and accompanying campaign which dishonor Senator John Kerry's combat record in the Vietnam War. These false charges represent the worst kind of politics, and we agree with both Senator John McCain and Senator Kerry that a firmly established service record in the United States Military is fully above reproach. As veterans of the armed services, we ask that you recognize this blatant attempt at character assassination, and publicly condemn it.

Our outrage over these advertisements and tactics has nothing to do with the tax code or campaign finance reform efforts of this nation. Our pain from seeing these slanderous attacks stems from something much more fundamental, that if one veteran's record is called into question, the service of all American veterans is questioned. This administration must not tacitly comply with unfounded accusations which have suddenly appeared 35 years after the fact, and serve to denigrate the service of a true American patriot. The veterans serving today should never have to expect this kind of treatment, when the wars of their generation have passed into history. We brothers and sisters in arms expect our Commander in Chief to stand up and reject this assault upon John Kerry's honor, the honor of American veterans and that of the United States Navy.

As you yourself have said, there is nothing complicated about supporting our troops, and the leaders of this nation should make it clear that the members of our military will not only be supported when they wear the uniform, but also when they return home to the land they fought to defend. Their valor and their wounds, both physical and psychological, make them heroes for as long as they live, a status which should not and must not change simply because they seek to enter public service. We senators and congressmen who wore the uniform served in different branches of the military and belong to different political parties, but we join together today to defend a fellow veteran from attacks we know to be false, and politically-motivated slander that has no place in our democratic process.

Mr. President, as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, we believe you owe a special duty to America's combat veterans when they are under false and scurrilous attacks. We hope you will recognize this duty, and speak out against this group and their efforts to smear the reputation of a man who has served this country nobly.

Call on this group to cease and desist. We can return this campaign season to a discussion of the issues on either side, and restore faith in the political system. As Americans, we should expect nothing less.


Sincerely,

Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI)
Sen. Ernest ''Fritz'' Hollings (D-SC)
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IO)
Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI)
Sen. Tom Carper D-DE)
Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Sen. Jon Corzine (D-NJ)
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)




~~~~~oo0oo~~~~~



Quote:

Dear Senators:

Thank you for your letter today. I'm sorry I could not come to pick it up myself, but I was engaged in work that is more important. If Laura and I don't get the dusting finished in the den, well, the consequences just don’t bear thinking about.

I understand you wish me to specifically condemn the recent ads of a 527 committee which have been making claims about my opponent's military record while he served for four months in Vietnam. Although I have never made such claims, and indeed have praised Senator Kerry's service to our nation, you seven veterans have come to me to ask that I restrain the rights of over 250 veterans, and thousands more hardworking American citizens, which would be in direct violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America--a Constitution that I swore to preserve, protect, and defend. And, if you'll recall your oaths of office, you also swore to preserve, protect, and defend that selfsame Constitution.

As legislators, you should recognize that what you are asking me to do specifically violates the Campaign Finance Reform Act. For me, as a presidential candidate, to single out any specific 527 committee or group of committees and condemn or praise its actions, or to directly communicate to its members, would violate both the spirit and the letter of the McCain-Feingold Act. I would remind you that Senator Kerry, as a presidential candidate, has made specific condemnations of certain 527 committee advertisements, and that IS a violation of McCain-Feingold. He has even gone so far as to personally telephone at least one member of a 527 committee to express his opinion about the committee's actions. I am puzzled, quite frankly, why you would urge me to break a law that you yourselves were instrumental in passing through Congress, and why you do not speak out against your fellow senator’s breach of the Campaign Finance Reform Act.

For quite some time--almost a year now--527 committee ads have been running. They have been coming primarily from pro-Kerry or pro-Democratic Party committees, and have said some rather bad things about me.

To be described as a terrorist, a Hitler, a murderer, a tyrant, a murderer, and other vile metaphors has not been a pleasant experience, but I have not called out for those ads or those committees to be censured. To do so would have violated the law. As Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the United States, a president does not have that luxury.

I would remind you that I also am a veteran. I served with pride in the Texas Air National Guard. The National Guard is an honorable and vital part of this mation’s defense, and should never be taken lightly or dismissed as less important.

I have called, for quite some time, for all 527 committees to cease their hateful advertisements. This does not violate the law, since a blanket statement covering all committees (regardless of their message) violates neither the spirit nor the letter of the McCain-Feingold law. I don’t believe any of us expected this obscure IRS rule to be used in such a fashion, and I would hope that you would work with me in the next congressional session to amend the Campaign Finance Reform law to close this unfortunate loophole.

You spoke of Senator Kerry’s service to our nation, and I have never said a bad word against this. However, those who have made these so-called ''attack'' ads you have written to complain about would appear to have some serious questions about Senator Kerry’s service, including the circumstances surrounding his various medals. You stated that if one veteran’s service is questioned then all are questioned. This is not quite correct. If one veteran’s service is proven to be dishonorable, he or she has sullied not only his or her name, but the name of every man and woman who has worn our nation’s uniform with pride and excellence. If valid questions are raised about the service of any member of our military, those questions must be investigated in order to find the truth.

Gentlemen, the truth is more important than political ambition or ego.

Considering the fact that many decorated veterans have raised important questions about Senator Kerry’s service while in uniform, in Vietnam, and afterwards, I would believe that the honorable senator would not wish to rest until his service record were fully examined. As you recall, many had asked for my service records after several unfounded queries about my time in the Texas Air National Guard. Although I thought previously that all the records had been released, I was informed that this was not the case and took steps to ensure that every available bit of information was put forward to finally put the issue to rest. Perhaps Mr. Kerry should consider completing a similar action, and sign a Form 180 to release all of his records for public scrutiny. This might also help him in the investigations currently being raised by Judicial Watch.

Your letter states that veterans should expect to be supported not only when they wear the uniform, but also when they return home to the land they fought to defend. I heartily agree. Our military deserve no less than the best, especially during a time of war. This makes Senator Kerry’s action to vote against the $87 million military appropriation during the Iraq war quite puzzling to me. Further, Senator Kerry’s testimony before the United States Senate in 1971, under oath, where he described his fellow Vietnam-era soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines as '''war criminals'' or ''baby killers'' when there was no factual basis upon which to make those statements, I something I find quite disturbing (not to mention perjurous). These statements were used by the enemy to further coerce, harm, and torture American prisoners of war still in North Vietnamese custody. In addition, Senator Kerry, while still a member of the Ready Reserve of the United States Navy, apparently went to Paris, France, to engage in personal negotiations with the North Vietnamese. This occurred while America was still at war with the communist North Vietnamese government. Perhaps, the next time you see Senator Kerry (when will he be visiting the Senate chambers again? I’m sure you must miss him terribly) you could remind him of Article III Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States of America. Remember, the Constitution you (and he) swore to preserve, protect and defend?

By the way, it has come to my attention that Senator Kerry apparently never showed up for any of his required training and service dates while in the Navy Reserves. As veterans, you are probably aware that all members of the Navy at that time, when moved from active duty to the Ready Reserves, were required to attend 48 drills and 17 days of active duty per year. However, we’ve been unable to determine whether then Lt. (jg) Kerry completed those requirements. From all available evidence, it would appear that Senator Kerry was absent without official leave for those dates. Next time you see him, perhaps you’d give him a nudge and remind him gently of his obligation.

As President and Commander in Chief, it is my sacred duty and privilege to defend the rights of all those in uniform, as well as those who have served their country with honor. My duty is to defend all of them, and defend them I will with every last ounce of my strength. I will defend their honor, their service, and their word. If any of them have sullied that honor, service, or are found to have lied regarding their service or the service of others, I will take every action within my power to ensure that they are punished to the fullest extent of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and/or applicable federal statutes.

I’m sorry that I cannot fulfill your request to ask any individual or group to cease and desist their political ads. I hope you understand that I cannot, in good conscience, break the law just to salve another presidential candidate’s bruised ego.


Respectfully yours,

Dubya



About the Writer: Doc Farmer is a writer and humorist who is also a moderator on ChronWatch's Forum. He formerly lived in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, but now resides in Indiana. Doc receives e-mail at docfarmer9999@yahoo.co.uk.

This Article Was First Published In ChronWatch At: http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=9254

_________________

Fat, Bald and Ugly - And PROUD Of It!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
concerned_voter
Former Member


Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 31

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROFLOL I had to copy that one to email to my friends.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Navy_Navy_Navy
Admin


Joined: 07 May 2004
Posts: 5777

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, all except for the reference to Kerry's Reserve requirements, I say BZ's! for that letter!

We don't know what the status was when Kerry was released from Active - as I recall, according to his only DD214, he was released to the IRR, which did not necessarily require drills or musters. His contract could have required only that his address be kept updated with the local records center.

Other than that, I love the letter!

Nail down that Reserve status thing and you'll be a celebrity. Wink
_________________
~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jim_pem
Seaman Recruit


Joined: 06 Aug 2004
Posts: 6
Location: Statesville, NC

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, and I'm sure they'd try to impeach Bush after he followed their advice and broke the law. It's just like the devil to talk you into doing something wrong and tell you haw bad it was afterward.
_________________
-Jim "Vlad" Pemberton
Frmr Sgt. USMC
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Doc Farmer
LCDR


Joined: 07 Aug 2004
Posts: 442
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jim_pem wrote:
Yeah, and I'm sure they'd try to impeach Bush after he followed their advice and broke the law. It's just like the devil to talk you into doing something wrong and tell you haw bad it was afterward.

Of that I have no doubt. I wonder why they don't censure Kerry for already breaking the law, though. Hmmm... Cool
_________________

Fat, Bald and Ugly - And PROUD Of It!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
jataylor11
Vice Admiral


Joined: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 856
Location: Woodbridge, Virginia

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent letter --- mail it to the Senators who sent the letter
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Son Of The Godfather
Captain


Joined: 29 Jul 2004
Posts: 540
Location: Camarillo, CA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc,
Remind me not to get on your bad side!

SOTG
_________________
"Which candidate would enemies of the United States prefer to see in the White House?"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tikoys
Seaman Recruit


Joined: 11 Jul 2004
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed that the Senators who signed the letter are the usual list of suspects but Dunkem Kennedy is missing.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Doc Farmer
LCDR


Joined: 07 Aug 2004
Posts: 442
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jataylor11 wrote:
Excellent letter --- mail it to the Senators who sent the letter

I have to admit, I'm tempted...
_________________

Fat, Bald and Ugly - And PROUD Of It!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
WebTalk
Lt.Jg.


Joined: 21 Aug 2004
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tikoys wrote:
I noticed that the Senators who signed the letter are the usual list of suspects but Dunkem Kennedy is missing.


Where's Kerry's preferred running mate, John McCain's, signature.

I still think he needs to retract his unfounded "dishonest and dishonorable" comment. Unless of course he served on Kerry's PCF-94.
_________________
America voted for solid LEADERSHIP and gave "W" a mandate to carry on.
God Blessed America! Again!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
WallaceNails
Seaman Apprentice


Joined: 07 Aug 2004
Posts: 89

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bush-Cheney campaign had a letter waiting for Cleland. Here is is:

Moderator Note: Please do not post direct links to Campiagn Sites. The appearance of such links here, gives the wrong impression to those who wish to exploit it. The Response Letter is available at other Sites.

Quote:
Letter to John Kerry

August 25, 2004

Senator John Kerry
304 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Kerry,

We are pleased to welcome your campaign representatives to Texas today. We honor all our veterans, all whom have worn the uniform and served our country. We also honor the military and National Guard troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today. We are very proud of all of them and believe they deserve our full support.

That’s why so many veterans are troubled by your vote AGAINST funding for our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, after you voted FOR sending them into battle. And that’s why we are so concerned about the comments you made AFTER you came home from Vietnam. You accused your fellow veterans of terrible atrocities – and, to this day, you have never apologized. Even last night, you claimed to be proud of your post-war condemnation of our actions.

We’re proud of our service in Vietnam. We served honorably in Vietnam and we were deeply hurt and offended by your comments when you came home.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t build your convention and much of your campaign around your service in Vietnam, and then try to say that only those veterans who agree with you have a right to speak up. There is no double standard for our right to free speech. We all earned it.

You said in 1992 “we do not need to divide America over who served and how.” Yet you and your surrogates continue to criticize President Bush for his service as a fighter pilot in the National Guard.

We are veterans too – and proud to support President Bush. He’s been a strong leader, with a record of outstanding support for our veterans and for our troops in combat. He’s made sure that our troops in combat have the equipment and support they need to accomplish their mission.

He has increased the VA health care budget more than 40% since 2001 – in fact, during his four years in office, President Bush has increased veterans funding twice as much as the previous administration did in eight years ($22 billion over 4 years compared to $10 billion over 8.) And he’s praised the service of all who served our country, including your service in Vietnam.

We urge you to condemn the double standard that you and your campaign have enforced regarding a veteran’s right to openly express their feelings about your activities on return from Vietnam.

Sincerely,

Texas State Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson
Rep. Duke Cunningham
Rep. Duncan Hunter
Rep. Sam Johnson
Lt. General David Palmer
Robert O'Malley, Medal of Honor Recipient
James Fleming, Medal of Honor Recipient
Lieutenant Colonel Richard Castle (Ret.)

_________________

FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dimsdale
Captain


Joined: 20 May 2004
Posts: 527
Location: Massachusetts: the belly of the beast

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was poetry, Doc!!

The rank hypocrisy in the Democrat Senator's letter cannot be written off to ignorance; it is deliberate and higly partisan.

I would email your letter to someone that has an "in" to the White House, like Mary Matalin perhaps. Brit Hume would be another. I am sure Bush won't say squat, preferring to stay above the fray (despite Kerry's best efforts to drag him into the controversy), but the spokesmen might be able to incorporate it into responses to the liberal press.
_________________
Everytime he had a choice, Kerry chose to side with communists rather than the United States.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kmudd
Master Chief Petty Officer


Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 825

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That letter was prefect.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Doc Farmer
LCDR


Joined: 07 Aug 2004
Posts: 442
Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimsdale wrote:
That was poetry, Doc!!

The rank hypocrisy in the Democrat Senator's letter cannot be written off to ignorance; it is deliberate and higly partisan.

I would email your letter to someone that has an "in" to the White House, like Mary Matalin perhaps. Brit Hume would be another. I am sure Bush won't say squat, preferring to stay above the fray (despite Kerry's best efforts to drag him into the controversy), but the spokesmen might be able to incorporate it into responses to the liberal press.

Please, feel free to send it along. I only ask that you include the ChronWatch attribution at the end of the letter.
_________________

Fat, Bald and Ugly - And PROUD Of It!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Conservative Carolinian
Seaman Recruit


Joined: 25 Aug 2004
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As we speak I am fixing up the letter and return to mail to Sen. Hollings of South Carolina.

Not that he will care (he never really has cared about anything but his own personal gain), but possibly his secretary will get a good laugh from it Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    SwiftVets.com Forum Index -> Swift Vets and POWs for Truth All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group