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kmudd
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 Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:38 am Post subject: Why would Kerry be lying in a ditch in a battle? |
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http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc3.asp?docid=1P1:91599964
As for Kerry, his Bronze Star citation, signed by Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt Jr., commended him for his bravery in an episode on the Bay Hap River on March 13, 1969: "When Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY discovered he had a man overboard, he returned upriver to assist. The man in the water was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain and with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard." Kerry pocketed the medal-to go along with the Silver Star and three Purple Hearts he had already been awarded-but by this time, he had thoroughly soured on the war. He wrote in his war notes that during one instance of combat, while lying in a ditch, the builds whizzing over his head, "I thought about what was happening in New York at that very moment, and if people really felt I was doing something worthwhile while they went down to Schraftt's and had another ice-cream sundae, or while some fat little old man who made another million in the past months off defense contracts was charging another $100 call girl to his expense account."
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drjohn
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"I thought about what was happening in New York at that very moment, and if people really felt I was doing something worthwhile while they went down to Schraftt's and had another ice-cream sundae, or while some fat little old man who made another million in the past months off defense contracts was charging another $100 call girl to his expense account."
"I wondered why I, as a Naval officer, was lying in a ditch. I imagined that I could find some way to explain it in a book written by some unsuspecting historian who wanted a symbolic hero- someone who did not care much for the truth. It would be easy to find this kind of dupe. They tended to fall over themselves looking for a hero. The truth was not important. All I had to do was avoid mongrel phrases." |
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kmudd
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| drjohn wrote: | "I thought about what was happening in New York at that very moment, and if people really felt I was doing something worthwhile while they went down to Schraftt's and had another ice-cream sundae, or while some fat little old man who made another million in the past months off defense contracts was charging another $100 call girl to his expense account."
"I wondered why I, as a Naval officer, was lying in a ditch. I imagined that I could find some way to explain it in a book written by some unsuspecting historian who wanted a symbolic hero- someone who did not care much for the truth. It would be easy to find this kind of dupe. They tended to fall over themselves looking for a hero. The truth was not important. All I had to do was avoid mongrel phrases." |
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4moreyears
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I don't know about kerry being in a ditch...but his morality is surely in the gutter.
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 kerry returned to the United States on July 22, 1971, held a press conference publicly calling on President Nixon... for the surrender of the United States to North Vietnam. |
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kmudd
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| Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| I thought for most of his battles he was on a boat except maybe when he claimed he beached the boat and ran after the VC with the rocket launcher . |
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cjg
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Kerry missed his calling...he should have written science fiction books.
4moreyear, your comment made me laugh! It was so quick on the draw
and right on. 
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kmudd
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The Washington Post; 8/22/2004; Michael Dobbs Washington Post Staff Writer
In other respects, March 13 would mark the culmination of Kerry's Vietnam
War career. With three Purple Hearts, he became eligible for reassignment.
Within three weeks, he was out of Vietnam and headed home after a truncated
four-month combat tour.
As commander of PCF-94, Kerry was responsible for ferrying a group of
Chinese Vietnamese mercenaries, known as Nung, eight miles up the Bay Hap
River, and then five miles up the winding Dong Cung Canal to suspected
Vietcong villages. His passengers included Rassmann, the Special Forces
officer, who had run into Kerry at a party a couple of weeks before and
remembered him as "a tall, skinny guy with this humongous jaw."
The expedition began to go wrong soon after they inserted the Nung troops
into a deserted village off the Dong Cung Canal. As the mercenaries searched
from house to house, Rassmann recalled, one reached for a cloth bag at
the base of a coconut tree and was blown to pieces. It was a booby trap.
Kerry, who arrived on the scene soon after, helped wrap the body in a poncho
and drag it back to the boat, diving into a ditch when he thought he was
under fire.
"I never want to see anything like it again," Kerry wrote later. "What
was left was human, and yet it wasn't -- a person had been there only a
few moments earlier and . . . now it was a horrible mass of torn flesh
and broken bones."
In "Tour of Duty," these thoughts are attributed to a "diary" kept by
Kerry. But the endnotes to Brinkley's book say that Kerry "did not keep
diaries in these weeks in February and March 1969 when the fighting was
most intense." In the acknowledgments to his book, Brinkley suggests that
he took at least some of the passages from an unfinished book proposal
Kerry prepared sometime after November 1971, more than two years after
he had returned home from Vietnam.
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