SwiftVets.com

[Mastour]

I'm sitting here in London right now and listening to Fox and watching one of Kerry's talking heads talk about how the SBVT are lying about this, and lying about that. How what they are saying is being debunked. I'm afraid this story is going to disappear. Moreover, I'm also afraid this will end up hurting Bush.

Look, I don't like Kerry. Not because of what he did 30 some odd years ago, but what his world view is and how damaging it will be to our country if this idiot is elected. I'm glad SBVT is bringing this to light, but unless they can start making a dent in the MSM, this will just go away and they will be looked at as a bump in the road. Don't get me wrong, I have donated and I will continue to donate because I believe in what they are doing. I'm concerned that this may do more harm than good.
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[Jette]

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[Mastour]

The problem is, all those links are from Fox. Now we all know Fox leans a bit to the right. I'm talking about those knuckleheads on ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN. I know, they wouldn't know a real story if it bit them in the arse, but unless this starts getting traction on those networks, this will go the way of the dino.
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[bpilch]

I saw the same thing and I just sent an email protesting this move towards becoming part of the mainstream media. Brian Wilson said everyone is tired of talking about this. If that is so, why is Unfit no. 1 on the bestseller list? He let the talking head say the charges are proven false...where?? this is total democratic spin and Wilson let it go by. I can understand the republican talking head not wanting to dispute the charges, but the media needs to be a fair arbiter-- at least Fox...

[buffman]

Remember Rupert Murdoch gave a lot of moola to Algore Algore, maybe he has throttled his troops?????
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[Mastour]

I'm hoping that the ads that are forthcoming cause people to really open their eyes. The MSM will not and are not going to look too deeply into this. It does not benefit them. They are going to go to the mat for this guy because they have to, not because they want to.

I read something somewhere recently that was spot on. If Bush is re-elected, it will be as close to the death neal to the Democrats as anything in recent history. The MSM will not let this happen.

I wish I could do more. Look, let's just say I work for an organization that deals specifically with the Navy/Marines. I would like nothing better than to get intimately involved, but it's too political and would probably cost me my job. There is a case here, just not one I'm willing to risk my life on.
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[zinfella]

Tired of it? It's the job of the media to print or broadcast the news, it's not their job to say when people should be tired of it.
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[Skywatch]

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

[Mastour]

I'm doing my best here across the pond. My blood just starts to boil when I start hearing this crap from the Kerry camp and nobody refuting what they are saying. I have faith in the strategic plan set forth by the SBVT and hope things play out the way they invisioned.

Keep those eyes open and watch your backs my friends. The left will do everything and anything to assure a Kerry victory and they will not care who gets hurt in the process.

And by the way, Kerry could be brought up on charges under the UCMJ. What he did after his brief but oh so heroic tour in Vietnam was done while he was still in the Reserves. Going to Paris? Punishable. Giving aid and comfort to the enemy? Punishable. Conduct Unbecoming? For sure punishable.
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[directorblue]

An academic study ("A Measure of Media Bias") showed that Drudge and Fox were actually the most centrist media outlets. They were almost exactly in the middle.

So, yes, compared to the CBS's of the world, they appear right. But they really are fair and balanced, if we can assume a peer-reviewed, academic study can be trusted (of course, the Left won't address _that_ issue, unless it's to sully the authors I'd wager).

What really gets me is the following. _That's_ where the ruckus should be raised. Anyone want to get this to contacts at Fox?

[zinfella]

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What really gets me is the following. _That's_ where the ruckus should be raised. Anyone want to get this to contacts at Fox?

Here's my post tol Fox.

From: Carl Stone <>
Date: Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:58:19 AM America/Phoenix
To: roger.ailes@foxnews.com, special@foxnews.com, weekendlive@foxnews.com, FNS@foxnews.com, friends@foxnews.com, major.garrett@foxnews.com, comments@foxnews.com
Subject: Bias against swift boat vets

I've been insulted with spin and bias on the Fox new Channel with regard to the swift boat vets. Juan Williams telling Brit Hume on Fox News Sunday that the swiftees have backpedaled, a major error at best, and an outright lie at worst. Brian Wilson saying about the swift boat story that "everyone he talks to wants it to go away", really? Is that why the book Unfit for Command is hotter than a volcano, and people all across the country are talking about this topic? Or perhaps it's a case of Wilson would like it to go away.

The one undeniable fact here is that it's John Kerry and his people that have been changing their story. He wasn't in Cambodia, his first Purple Heart was undeserved, he's the one that fled when Rassman went into the water, and then returned, the other boats never left. The swiftees have not changed a thing, and it's sad that John O'Neill's comments are parsed and restated with omissions in order to disparage what he has said about being in Cambodia himself. Geraldo asks Bill Clinton for his take, what an insult, with Clinton having zero credibility. Geraldo, the well known long time anti-war activist, please cut me a break. Alan Colmes consistently taking things out of context because the truth is not on his side, just see his treatment of John O'Neill.

There are some voices from the other side, but they are stifled, like the end of Geraldo last night when Ann Coulter's remarks were cut off by a commercial. If you're advertise being fair and balanced then cut the spin, and be fair and balanced.

I expected more from Fox News. If we can't get the truth, we sure don't need conjecture to make up for it.


Carl Stone
Mesa, Az
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[ETEE]

Although never involved in a political campaign in my 56 years, I started posting on the Internet in an effort to defeat Kerry, as soon as it became clear that he had a chance of winning the caucus in Iowa. I closed my business(I'm an independent contractor) and have been on the boards 16 hrs' a day, 7 days a week. I've sent tens of thousands of Emails. many thousands of posts. Thousands of hours of research in replies to posts. And I am no different than many of you.

Don't worry so much about the Main Stream Media. This is the year that the Internet changed all that. Use your keyboard and your knowledge and your disdain for John Kerry. Because you are Veterans or family of veterans, we are respected for our opinion in this matter. Don't waste time worrying about the opposition. Find a voter and convince him. That's what it's about.

[MsSpiffy]

The problem and why people are getting tired of hearing it all is that it is still a basic he said/ he said. Gossip is fun but there has to be actual PROOF to the allegations. Not just memories either. I bought the book and am a contributor also but the latest polls show that people are just not convinced In listening to my radio the past week, I have noted to the more moderate are dropping the discussion entirely. Emotions should not have anything to do with it Somehow the records are going to have to be released and seen which proves or disproves the allegations. I believe that Kerry is a real slime-ball but he still (according to the polls) has nearly 1/2 the vote !!

[Bhist]

zinfella

I'd suggest deleting your email address in your above post. You sure don't want to start receiving solicitation letters from the Kerry campaign, now, do you?
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