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[swctexas]

I believe it is proven (and admitted by Kerry thugs) that the first Purple Heart was bogus. Kerry got out of Vietnam due to the three Purple Heart deal.

If the first one was bogus, is Kerry not "elligble" for desertion charges or at best a dishonorable discharge? Is he still enlisted and if so shouldn't he be in Kabul or Iraq right now?

Second point, Kerry has admitted to committing war crimes. Is there no law that keeps a self-proclaimed war criminal from being elected president?

Surely some legal eagle can figure this out- based not only on swift vet testimony but by Kerry's own admission?

Maybe I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I think there are points here that could and should be considered.

SWC

[lrb111]

I was wondering about that first bogus PH myself, and wondering if desertion was in the mix.

On the confessions, someone posted the constitutional statutes here, in hte last couple of days. Sorry i don't know which thread. But you are right it would be illegal to be president, and i think senator too.
I figure Fulbright had the fix in though to get around the senatorial ramifications.
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said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast.

[recongrunt]

I have also wonderd if there is a statue of limitations on treason, war crimes and becoming stupid enough to believe everyone buys his BS. The Logan act although never used, should be against those like Kerry who communicate with the enemy. I think a lawsuit from a group of Veterans would further raise the doubt level about Kerry's fitness or lack thereof.

Any thoughts?

Wayne

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

I honestly don't think much is ever going to come of the medals fraudulently obtained. I don't think the Navy is going to touch that any more than they already have (making the statement that the SS does not ever get awarded with a V device.)

However, there may be some interest in pursuing offenses under the UCMJ and US Code for negotiating with the enemy, and I've seen a lot of "what if" kinds of conversations all over the internet about a class action suit for slander and libel by the Vietnam era vets.

I don't know. Just speculation on my part, as with anyone else's.
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[RocketFett]

You guys are right. This below that I posted is in other threads and it's been what's gnawed at me for over a week. I have researched it all over and have found nothing about it to dispute it. Even called the kerry campaign and confronted them wiht it and they simply put me on hold twice, then hung up on me when I persisted asking for an explaination how he got around UCMJ, and Article 3, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Call the kerry people and ask them too. The campaign number is 617-367-1551 and the D.C. Switchboard is 1(800)839-5276 and ask for kerry's office and ask how he was able to circumvent Constitutional law and become Senator. Read all this below if you haven't already and it is very clear that not only is kerry violating the Constitution by running for President, he's been violating the Constitution every day for 19 years by being a Senator! He has no more right to be a Senator than saddam hussein or usama bin laden does for God's sake! The only way around it is if BOTH houses of Congress take a vote and by 2/3rds majority vote to override that law for an individual, and I have found no such evidence of a vote like that occuring in 1985 or ever. And if it did, why do not any of the kerry people know of it to cite it when this comes up? A question of Constitutional law and its blatant violation by placement of an individual as an unconstitutionally supported U.S. Senator is no small item. But what can you do? john kerry is clearly above the law and has been all his life, and apparently no one in government has a set that's willing to do what's right and lawful and to put him in his place as a citizen who is UNDER the law, NOT above it. I wish the Republican leadership would tackle this and put it to the American people. THis man has NO Constitutional right to be President. He gave that up when he climbed in bed with the NVA adding to the torture of our POWs!

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 & U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."


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[brotherofvietvet]

This may be an elementary question but in reading the constitution a case can be made that Kerry gave aid & comfort to the enemy.

our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

However, there is a technicality and that is that the Vietnam War was never declared by Congress. It was a Presidential police action. Will the treason charges stick or will they be mute due to this technicality. Any lawyers hor constitutional scholars here that can provide an informed opinion?