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rmeals
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Ex-Viet Cong support Kerry Reply with quote

You got to love this story. I bet the DNC will reference this as further verification that Kerry is telling the truth.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130764,00.html
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for joining in and welcome aboard. Smile

This is a duplicate story, so I'll be deleting it in a bit.

Have a good night!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:08 am    Post subject: misleading Reply with quote

As a read this again it is obvious that although there is no direct link to anything Kerry did there author is trying to leave the reader with the impression that the combat being recounted involves Kerry and his crew.

I am also amused that the VC would vote for Kerry because Kerry would never have the moxie to use troops overseas to defend America's interests and allies. In his opinion Kerry just wouldn't be able to stomach the sacrifice involved.

As an aside, the VC is kind of confused about why someone would get a medal for pulling someone out of the water. He says that was an ordinary occurrence that happened thousands of times amongst the Vietnamese. Interesting perspective…
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 February according to the Command History has an incident where PCF-38 was hit by a B-40 rocket. However 4 PCFs were involved not 3 and only 1 VC was confirmed killed.

3 Feb 3 PCFs went on a night patrol in that area. 2 B-40 rockets near misses. Not the same story as this VC told.

The only other incident that comes close is the 28 FEB incident (Kerry gets his Silver Star). This had 3 boats in it and if this story was true, Kerry and crew killed all but one VC before they even got a chance to fire more than 1 B-40 rocket.

This reporter is sad... The reports are there to look at. Almost every day of Feb 69 there was combat. This idiot is trying to link the 13 Mar 69 incident to this VC's story. Yeah, right. It would be nice if it was, because it would prove Kerry a liar, again.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is pitiful. I am so sure one of the enemy communists from 35 years ago, in a brief one time encounter, someone not likely to even speak a word of english, somehow remembers prissy boy Kerry, an unknown nobody at the time, who supposedly was shooting at him from a distant boat.

LOL! This was obviously an AP called-in fluff piece meant to prop up Benedict Arnold Kerry. I found it laughable.

And as everyone knows, it's not just war and peace issues that the leftist media fail us miserably. The liberal media and academia are largely to blame for the killing of millions of minds everyday.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: Ex-Viet Cong support Kerry Reply with quote

rmeals wrote:
You got to love this story. I bet the DNC will reference this as further verification that Kerry is telling the truth.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130764,00.html


Hello,

They are just returning the favor. Smile

Kerry has ties to Vietnam.

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The year after his committee’s vote to give Communist Vietnam a clean bill of health, the strangest thing happened. In December 1992 Vietnam signed its first huge commercial deal worth at least $905 million to develop a deep-sea commercial port at Vung Tau to accommodate all the trade that was to come. It signed the deal with a company called Colliers International. At the time, the Chief Executive Officer of this company was C. Stewart Forbes. Name sound familiar? It should. He is Senator John F. Kerry’s cousin. What a coincidence!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"As a Navy lieutenant, Kerry commanded two Swift boat units, PCF-44 and PCF-94"


I thought it was just 94. Wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Ex-Viet Cong... Reply with quote

drjohn wrote:
As a Navy lieutenant...

I don't know what you're driving at but in my memory of this stuff, he was not promoted to Lieutenant until after he left Vietnam. He was a JG and commanded the 44 Boat briefly, first, and then took over the 94 Boat from Peck on January 30 (after Peck and Alston were injured).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the article says roughly the same time 35 years ago in early 1969

... When this started, I read a snippet of Kerry's statement (Christmas in Cambodia) and locked onto the word invading.

I knew it wasn't 1968, I knew I was 'over there' that Christmas (off the coast on an aircraft carrier), I know I have "the medal", but I couldn't remember exactly what year it was!

This "retired VC" seems to have the same problem I have. Memories are pretty clear, but exactly what day that happened (or even what year) he didn't bother with.

I believe the VietNam guy.
I've not changed my opinion on Kerry.

He speaks well of the brevity of the Swift Boat men, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Ex-Viet Cong... Reply with quote

Tom Poole wrote:
drjohn wrote:
As a Navy lieutenant...

I don't know what you're driving at but in my memory of this stuff, he was not promoted to Lieutenant until after he left Vietnam. He was a JG and commanded the 44 Boat briefly, first, and then took over the 94 Boat from Peck on January 30 (after Peck and Alston were injured).



This was quoted from the Fox article above and I was looking for confirmation for what I thought I knew. I knew Ted Peck was injured on 29 Jan but I was not sure that Kerry actually had command of 44. I thought he was a newbie on 44 and subsequently got 94.

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerry took command of PCF-44 on 6 Dec 68 and commanded the boat until 29 Jan 69. On 30 Jan 69 he took command of PCF-94 because his PCF-44 crew was rotated out and Tedd Peck (the commander of PCF-94) was injured in combat. Kerry commanded PCF-94 until 13 Mar 69.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is great. Another good reason to not vote for him. Goes right along with the fact that the democratic socialist and Amercan communist parties endorse kerry, and are behind the big protests. In which over 1000 people were arrested Tuesday night, and there were very violent protesting. One person was arrested for trying to assault VP Cheney, and assaulted a Secret Service agent in the process. Where's the major media reporting of that?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drjohn wrote:
"As a Navy lieutenant, Kerry commanded two Swift boat units, PCF-44 and PCF-94"


I thought it was just 94. Wrong?


PCF-44 and PCF-94.

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