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Bhist Lieutenant
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 228
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:50 am Post subject: Kerry and the Media Implode -- Thanks To SBVT and Fox News |
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When one looks back to the 2000 election and compares how it is covered today vs. then, one has to conclude that Bush would’ve won the popular vote in 2000 if today’s news reporting applied to then. Add to this equation the SBVT, then I feel safe to conclude that Bush would’ve defeated Gore by a landslide. Why?
Fox News did not have the viewer numbers in 2000 that it has today. The news was still dominated by the ABCs back then. But, in 2004 with the SBVT ads and O’Neill’s book added to the mix, we all have the honor to witness the implosion of the Democratic Party and the liberal news media.
The liberal pundits on the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CNN (Crossfire), MSNBC, NY Times, and LA Times, and more are all falling apart. They’re screaming their heads off or reporting false polls in Kerry’s favor to try and get the momentum back. It ain’t happening.
I give most of the credit for this event to Fox News and the SBVT. The SBVT are the bravest bunch of vets I’ve ever seen (well, the vets storming the beaches of Normandy are up there, too). Keep it going SBVT – you may transform journalism back to what it was intended to be while healing the wounds of Vietnam. _________________ Watch Kerry Implode Because Of Truth!!
Watch Rather Implode Because Of Lies!! |
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Jim T. Seaman Recruit
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 43 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think we better give the Drudge Report some recognition here. He seemed to be way ahead of FOX News and any other media outlet. _________________ "And we will tell the terrorists, we will win and you will lose" and hope to hell they believe me.-John Kerry |
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Bhist Lieutenant
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Good addition -- I emphasized Fox News because it and talk radio have driven the change in content for news for the better. _________________ Watch Kerry Implode Because Of Truth!!
Watch Rather Implode Because Of Lies!! |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Certainly Drudge is a major source of news, and has broken some of the hottest news items of our time, exclusively. The Lewinski scandal is probably the most recognized of those. But, it must be pointed out that the overwhelming majority of the stories on the Drudge web site are links to other, already published stories. Drudge is very useful as a center from which to view various stories from various unconnected media sources. Matt Drudge offers little comment on his web site, which is his connection to the masses. Fox news is mainly about comment. Two very different formats. _________________ No whiners! |
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coldwarvet Admiral
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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If the "NEW" media would have been in place in 1971 do you think Kerry would even be running for CIC in 04? _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
"Peace is our Profession"
Strategic Air Command - Motto
USAF 75-79 Security Police |
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Bhist Lieutenant
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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NO...I think Kerry would've ended up in COURT!! _________________ Watch Kerry Implode Because Of Truth!!
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coldwarvet Admiral
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Bhist wrote: | NO...I think Kerry would've ended up in COURT!! |
So do you agree that the media has contributed to the wrongful depiction of veterans and members of our military? _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
"Peace is our Profession"
Strategic Air Command - Motto
USAF 75-79 Security Police |
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Bhist Lieutenant
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I don't quite understand your question. If you read my original post to this thread, you'll understand my position on this subject. _________________ Watch Kerry Implode Because Of Truth!!
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cjg PO3
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 254
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Certainly Drudge should be named as I listened to him on Sunday for the
first time and there is no doubt he is for the republicans and the Swiftvets,
none at all!
The bloggers who have followed the Swiftvets campaign are to be
credited as well, they have been real attack dogs on Kerry and his
group. Their posts are intelligent for the most part, with Hugh Hewitt
being one of the strongest, he is a real attack dog with no loss of
enthusiasm on the worst days.
It has been a great campaign and it is hard to really think it is happening
some days, it is making so many changes, wonderful _________________ Swiftvets rock! |
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dallasbob Seaman Recruit
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 13 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: Hat's Off Matt Drudge |
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I second the motion on the importance and influence of the Drudge Report. He has centralized the breaking news by posting what is truly important to the simply tabloid bizzarre and letting his readers (viewers) decide if it's news or not.
In a small but critical way, he's a revoluntionary. How Americans once received news will never be same in the post-Drudge era. |
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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coldwarvet wrote: | Bhist wrote: | NO...I think Kerry would've ended up in COURT!! |
So do you agree that the media has contributed to the wrongful depiction of veterans and members of our military? |
Let me say that there is absolutely no doubt about the complicity of the media in left wing agandas. John F-ing Kerry AND the willing media, along with left wing demonstrators and supporters are responsible for 100% of the wrongs directed at military personnel. It's the enemy within. _________________ No whiners! |
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arjr111 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 86
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | If the "NEW" media would have been in place in 1971 do you think Kerry would even be running for CIC in 04? |
Lew Waters linked this great site which exhaustively references the deception perpetrated by the MSM, in the late 60 early 70's.
Obviously the New Media would have made some sort of difference, but considering the vast scope of the (Communist) MSM propaganda I don't think it would have been enough to change the future.
VIETNAM VETERANS FOR ACADEMIC REFORM
http://www.i-served.com/v-v-a-r.org/VietnamAndTheMedia_part01.html _________________ Semper-Fi |
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coldwarvet Admiral
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1125 Location: Minnetonka, MN
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Bhist wrote: | I don't quite understand your question. If you read my original post to this thread, you'll understand my position on this subject. | The point I am making is that the 1971 media was out of wack and the "NEW" is doing a better job at getting to the truth. _________________ Defender of the honor of those in harms way keeping us out of harms way.
"Peace is our Profession"
Strategic Air Command - Motto
USAF 75-79 Security Police |
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Bhist Lieutenant
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Gotcha. And, if today's media had been covering the news of the VVAW in 1971, along with the SBVT having the same tools they have today (website and the book), I think Kerry would've ended up in court. _________________ Watch Kerry Implode Because Of Truth!!
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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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The Drudge radio show is another format altogether. This is where Matt offers cogent comment, and asks pointed questions. The radio is where he is most partisan, and where he's most supportive of conservative agendas, including the swiftees. This is no trashing of his web site, but one cannot get a feeling for Matt's attitudes from the web site unless they spend enough time there to read what stories he posts. In other words the web site is far more subtle. And the most common comment from Matt Drudge on his web site is ------"developing". I always get a mental image of Matt rubbing his hands together, and grinning like the Cheshire Cat. when he posts the word---------"deveolping". _________________ No whiners! |
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