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Mastour · Seaman Recruit Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 32

Do you understand the meaning of loyality? I think you do because of how you feel for your father. It's admirable that you hold you father in such high esteem, if only everybody felt the same was as you do for their fathers, but some are not that lucky.

What you have to understand is this is not a fight for Bush to win the presidency. This is a fight to stop a man that has shown no honor or loyality to those who were in Vietnam fighting for what they believed was a legitimate cause. You say Bush is a beast and he and his father are not good men. Why? I'm just curious what makes you think this of these two men.

Imagine if you can looking at our country after what happened on 9/11. What do you do as President? Do you have polls conducted to see what the American people want you to do? Or do you, based on the best information you have, take the fight to those who wish to destroy who we are as a nation. Nobody wants to go to war. Whoever thinks that this President was looking for a reason to go to war is seriously in need of some help. But sometimes hard decisions need to be made and sometimes those decisions mean brave men and women are going to die. That is what this President I'm sure was struggling with. For him to do nothing would have been impeachable. He had to go to Afghanistan. He had to go to Iraq. He will more than likely have to go to Syria and/or Iran. This is a fight that was brought to us not us to them. This started years ago and has finally come to a head.

What people need to realize is the SBVT look at what is going on in the world today and see a man who has shown his true stripes. Who better to judge a man than those individuals who worked with him, faught(sp) with, and found he is wonting. His actions after returning home from Vietnam and after casting vote after vote to degrade our abilities as nation to fight when necessary, has shown at least this individual he does not have what it takes to secure this nation from a threat.
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JCBoston · Seaman Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 185

msindependent · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:49 am Post subject:

They served with Kerry and have a major beef with the man. Read through the posts and discover their side of the story. Kerry hurt them in many different ways. This started long before the current election and has nothing to do with W. Open up and listen to them.

Stevie · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:59 am Post subject:

Ameica#1

I too would like to know why you think so badly of the 2 bush pesidents....

you are young.... compared to me.... I've been around for several presidents....hmmmm

also, the vietnam era..... was in my teens.... knew peoople who went.... and died.... and some who came back....

prior to that, when I was even younger, we lived under the fear of Soviet Union bombing us.... we listened for the air raid sirens.....

and have you read the uFC? and kerry's book? and dated articles where Kerry contradicted himself.... again and again and again?????

do some homework on this stuff - there's a lot of site addresses listed somewhere in the forum .... maybe the 1st page - they've just been setting it up; have you listened to Kerry 's statement to congress? maybe this will help you understand some of your father's inner demons.... and ask yourself, why did your dad not proclaim himself a war hero to everyone? and Kerry does? who is really the hero?

and listen to ollie North.... he is wise...

and to Mastour.... faught is fought.... close.... sometimes I have trouble spelling 'is' (that only started when Clinton was in office)....

Stevie

Stevie · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:05 am Post subject:

Americas#1,

for the response on the Bush presidents (if you are going to respond) should go to Geebunk and Scuttlebutt area... or a personal email

questions /info about Kerry / swifties - that's here....

Mastour · Seaman Recruit Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 32

I feel sorry for you. You've bought into all the liberal mantra that's being perpetuated in the MSM for years now. Let me as you a question. Do you think if we are attacked again, Social Security, Health Care, the debt will matter. Do you understand who we are as a nation depends on our ability to protect ourselves. If we are hit again, our economy will go in the gutter. Health care, social secuirty, education will not even be a consideration because of the fallout of another attack.

And to say these men are living in the past is a complete joke. They probably wouldn't have even brought anything up if Kerry hadn't made Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign.

You need to read and not just one point of view. Do some research and make an informed opinion. Otherwise you are going to vote again for someone who is not Bush and darlin that is pretty sad.
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Lily · Lieutenant Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 244

The purpose of this site is to discuss the fitness of John F. Kerry not President Bush.I suspect the moderators will come to this thread soon to make you aware of that.

WebTalk · Lt.Jg. Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 147

Ohio Voter · PO2 Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 360

I am against Kerry because I remember what he did when he came home from Vietnam. I remember his testimony and the protests and the how I was made to believe our soldiers were less than heroic and made to believe they were a band of criminals. Kerry was a 70's leftist radical. He was not an honorable American.

85 Scott · Seaman Recruit Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 43

Why? Pure and simple - because John Kerry is a traitor and career-liar.

He "sold out" America and all Vietnam Vets as a pro-pinko protester in the early 1970's for self-serving political purposes. Since then Kerry has been consistently wrong on national defense.

On domestic issues, Kerry lies so much, he can't even tell the simple truth about who owns his family SUV's. His proposals are so socialistic and unrealistic they belong in France.

And what I remember most about the 2000 election, was the Demos constantly filing their BS lawsuits, including their trying to stop the votes of US armed forces stationed overseas from being counted.

USWORHOCKEY · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject:

jk is not qualified to command period. What has he accomplished in the past 20 years? What good has he contributed to America? What does he stand for? He doesn't even want us to have proper equipment. I currently serve and have to say he is a WMD to me and my fellow soldiers. GWB is our only option......thank you
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buffman · LCDR Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 437

Can be explained here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131123,00.html
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Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

Please note, the original topic has been re-opened.

Please feel free to continue this discussion in that thread.

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7431