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waltjones · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:42 am Post subject: BAND OF BROTHERS?

Kerry's real band of brothers:

Note: See topic "Calling All Marines" for a full explanation of this despicable dustcover photo.
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carpro · Admin Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 1176 Location: Texas

Scruffy looking, aren't they?
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Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

Is that the "Che Look-Alike Contest" winner featured at the bottom left?

waltjones · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:15 pm Post subject: Che?

Yeah, just before he got on a plane to Nicaragua! Semper Fi!
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waltjones · Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 11:44 pm Post subject: 1st defense

This is the first defense of this photo - OK, it's not much of a defense - by someone saying they're a vet:

craig:
I haven't read it and if you did not explain it well I don't expect it to be my problem.

I take that back. You posted a number of things but I will assume you are talking about your first post. I did read it and thought it rather silly to make such issue and assumption about a book cover made so many years ago.
You assume they meant to mock. Whetehr it was meant to mock or not I don't know and I expect someone who makes such an assumption about the motives is merely projecting his own prejudice.
While I involved with the anti-war movement pretty soon after I got out of the Army I was not terribly fond of a lot of the presentation by pro or anti side of the issues.
At some peace riots I thought there were two sorts who started breaking windows - ******** and authoritarian shills set to discredit.
I think it is a stupid cover myself, but I also gather that Kerry didn't have anything to do with its selection or even all that much to do with assembling the book. Doesn't matter though.

Was any of the folks who raised that flag the first time the same ones who raised it the second?
Not that it would matter a way lot since they all faught their way up that hill - mountain.

I guess the first flag someone thought might raise moral while the second was for photo op - which I suppose is valid enough also, a more 'dramatic' picture to raise moral back in the states.

Being so attached to a symbol is taking on a vulnerability upon ones self. Someone can mess with your precious, or your own imaginings about motives, and distract you from more important things.

Insult to all Marines? Did all Marines elect you their spokesperson?

Here's my response:

craig (from waltjones):
They didn't have to; there are some things, like honor and respect, that Marines have in common. Every Marine will see this filth before November. I have spoken to many Marines of this - most hadn't seen it, and ALL are outraged by it. I would suggest you should be, too. Your pitiful defense tells me a great deal about you. Thatisall ....

Comments welcome - Semper Fi!
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Marine's Wife · PO3 Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 267

The picture is typical Kerry. Liar,traitor,and a real piece of crap !

Please, don't expect the "Craigs,and Sparkys" to know anything about honor or respect.

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Montana · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 138 Location: Montana

I quote the Marine Corps War Memorial website (partial quote):

¨The Marine Corps War Memorial stands as a symbol of this grateful Nation's esteem for the honored dead of the U.S. Marine Corps. While the statue depicts one of the most famous incidents of World War II, the memorial is dedicated to all Marines who have given their lives in the defense of the United States since 1775.¨

No one needs to elect Waltjones as a spokesman for the
U.S. Marine Corps. The photo on Kerry´s book speaks for itself.
Doesn´t matter who chose it or whether Kerry is in the photo.
His name is on it. It´s his book. You cannot spin this.

Insult one veteran, insult all veterans!

Kerry should hang his head in shame in the presence of any
US veteran.

Montana

waltjones · Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: Kerry's shame

craig:
I'm surprised, craig - that was even a more pitiful defense than your previous post. You sure you're a vet and know what we mean by honor and respect? Do you know what it means to respect your dead comrades? Do you have any sense of decency? Read all the outrage about this - it's going to grow. Did you know Zell Miller is a Marine? Yes, I said IS - Marines understand. Thatisall ....
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Marine's Wife · PO3 Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 267

The flag is UPSIDE DOWN ! An insult to ANY American who gives a damn.Obviously the "war hero????? didn't . The cover would have been approved by him. I heard him give one of his lame excuses several months ago. ...." I was a 27 year old kid" Some kid! Rolling Eyes

Craig · Guest

Montana · Lt.Jg. Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 138 Location: Montana

One day a school had the US Flag flying upside down on the
flagpole. I went in to see if someone was in ¨distress.¨ It turned out
the two boys who hoisted the flag that morning had made
a mistake. Their actions were not meant to be disrepectful.

Kerry´s bookcover is disrespectful. Disrespectful to the flag
and all veterans.

Kerry continues to mention his youth in all of this.
Indiscretions...or something like that.

A 27 year-old man, who was Swiss-
educated, graduated from Yale, went to Officer Candidate School,
was a division officer, and an OIC of a Swift Boat cannot get
away with this excuse. A 17-year-old boot might, but not John Kerry.

Montana
John Kerry should hang his head in shame in the presence of any
veteran.

Craig · Guest

waltjones · Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: re: Calling All Marines

craig:
Another really pitiful defense, craig. You are, as any dolt with any knowledge of their country's heritage would know, totally ignoring the fact - as seen by every vet I've shown this to - that this is a parody of Iwo Jima. Your incredible lack of respect and continued lame defense is very indicative of your "blinder's on" politics and lack of honor for those 6801 dead Marines. You are a lowlife and enemy of our values, and I personally don't believe you ever served as you have previously stated.
Thatisall .....
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Craig · Guest