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Steve Z
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131912,00.html
New Fox news poll out today: Bush 47 Kerry 43 Nader 3,
Bush 47 Kerry 45 without Nader
Veterans vote: Bush 61 Kerry 30 Nader 3 or
Bush 57 Kerry 34 without Nader
The SBVT message has reached veterans...but non-veterans need to hear about the disastrous consequences of Kerry's recommended withdrawal from Vietnam, and his meeting with the enemy in Paris.
When will the next ad come out?
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Nutso
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Some of the non veterans will not respond to anything we do. I come from a family that believes everything about John Kerry is just made up. I even have a sister that is running for state office on the grounds that we need higher taxes, because there are so many kids in need. When I ask her how much is to much she tells me that as long as other people need it, we must keep taking it.
PS I donated a few bucks to her opponent. |
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zinfella
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Nutso wrote: | Some of the non veterans will not respond to anything we do. I come from a family that believes everything about John Kerry is just made up. I even have a sister that is running for state office on the grounds that we need higher taxes, because there are so many kids in need. When I ask her how much is to much she tells me that as long as other people need it, we must keep taking it.
PS I donated a few bucks to her opponent. |
The idea that when it comes to giving and taking, that it's best explained by "Everyone should give according to their ability, and everyone should take according to their need", is straight from the Communist manifesto.
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acs99
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: Who cares? |
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The Fox News Poll has continually underepresented Bush's support the entire election.
The Fox Poll was the only poll that had Bush losing going into the GOP convention when every other poll showed Bush movement. The Fox Poll has had the Bush job approval number lower than all the other polls throughout.
Every other poll, CBS, Gallup, Time, Newsweek, show Bush from anywhere from a 7-11 point lead. Even Zogby has Bush's numbers better than Fox.
The Washington post/ABC poll coming out today is also supposed to be good news for Bush according to National Review.
Seriously, you people need to stop taking Fox News word as Gospel. Their poll is a joke. The least credible of the polls out there. |
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noc
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You should just bookmark this one:
http://www.pollingreport.com
It has most of the polls. No single poll with be always accurate.
I try to average them out and watch the trend lines.
Even the Fox poll is good when you look at the change from their last poll. |
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Slednfool
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| Quote: | | Seriously, you people need to stop taking Fox News word as Gospel. Their poll is a joke. The least credible of the polls out there. |
I'm sure they hire an ouside polling company to do their polling and they do report on everybody elses polls. |
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You GottaBeKidding
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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nutso:
| Quote: | | PS I donated a few bucks to her opponent. |
snicker, snicker |
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coolhand
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| noc wrote: | You should just bookmark this one:
http://www.pollingreport.com
It has most of the polls. No single poll with be always accurate.
I try to average them out and watch the trend lines.
Even the Fox poll is good when you look at the change from their last poll. |
For all, I'd check out www.realclearpolitics.com. From what I've seen, I think they are best at providing polling data, averages and articles. |
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zinfella
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Who cares? |
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Seriously, you people need to stop taking Fox News word as Gospel. Their poll is a joke. The least credible of the polls out there. |
And your evidence to support that claim is? If it's only that some polls don't agree with others, then by what criteria do you decide which is more accurate? Let's not forget that these are OPINION polls, and we are not privy to the actual questions that were used in each. Polls can be slanted, but not necessarily so, and unless you have something hard to base your remarks on, it's a case of this being YOUR opinion that Fox polls are "a joke". Unsubstantiated claims are just that, unsubstantiated, and should be valued in that light.
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Stacman
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| Nutso wrote: | Some of the non veterans will not respond to anything we do. I come from a family that believes everything about John Kerry is just made up. I even have a sister that is running for state office on the grounds that we need higher taxes, because there are so many kids in need. When I ask her how much is to much she tells me that as long as other people need it, we must keep taking it.
PS I donated a few bucks to her opponent. |
True! I have an aunt and uncle I haven't spoken to in about ten years. Or rather they haven't spoken to me either. They were under the impression the democrats (regardless of who it was) walk on water. Big supporter of sleezeball Clinton.
We just have to write off those like them because they're all like a zombie cult who've been brainwashed. Kerry is as dull and stupid as the day is long, yet they'll back him to the end. Not because they like him, but because they've been convinced that they hate Bush. Whether they base that on their own opinion, or something they're told.
The target voters are the neutral (couldn't form a thought if their life depended on it) undecided's. Either because they just don't care, or they're incapable of consuming enough information to make a choice. For those, I would be content if they didn't vote at all, rather than closing their eyes and picking. Some vote merely because it's "their god given right" to vote. So they do so not based on any forumla whatsoever.
I think it'll come down to what the registered base is as of this moment. Same thing in 2000. That's why the polling is so close. Polls are BS. Registered Republicans and Democrats are spilt down the middle. In the end it comes down to who is the most infuriated by campaign events to make it a point to vote for their party. And sadly, who can't make it to the polls for one reason, or another. Not to mention the tens of thousands of absentee (mostly military) votes aren't counted.
Frankly, I'm kinda glad the liberal weenies are stirring things up now. If enough of it is exposed before election day, not to mention Kerry's charade of the past 35 years, people will be pissed enough to do something. Then nothing would do my heart better than to see Kerry out of a job, never have to see his psycho wife again, and watching all the Hollywood celebs crying for the next four years...
Oh yeah, and the one worst thing of all. I'm stuck in this stupid liberal leaning state of California (where the military brought me and I never left) where my vote means absolutely nothing at all. Of course, had I stayed in my homestate of New York, things wouldn't be any different. After all, they elected Hilary to the Senate. Damn!!! |
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