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CBS Poll: Vets Favor Bush
CBSNew.com, by Staff

Original Article

Posted By:Dreadnought, 6/4/2004 10:18:41 PM

Veterans' evaluations of the war in Iraq are slightly more optimistic than those of the American public overall -- although even veterans question how well things are going for the U.S. in Iraq and whether the war is worth the costs, a CBS News poll finds. And as both presidential candidates vie for the veterans vote in 2004, right now President Bush holds a clear lead among those who have served...

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 6/4/2004 10:31:21 PM

He doesn't call them "baby killers".


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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rat Patrol, 6/4/2004 10:35:30 PM

Lets only allow Veterans to vote in 2004, since the Rats did all they could to block the military from voting in 2000.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: wes mouch, 6/4/2004 10:41:12 PM

Maybe Kerry should start looking for another "band of brothers"...


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Reply 4 - Posted by: YY4U, 6/4/2004 10:42:40 PM

?And this is a surprise to...


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Reply 5 - Posted by: shurnuff, 6/4/2004 10:53:47 PM

A CBS Poll?

See? BS!


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Reply 6 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 6/4/2004 11:05:37 PM

Most vets remain modest about their service and avoid bragging.
You don't parade around with Purple Hearts at the grocery store (while cutting in line).


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Reply 7 - Posted by: MadMac, 6/4/2004 11:31:59 PM

Who would Osama vote for?


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Reply 8 - Posted by: knub, 6/4/2004 11:42:24 PM

Many of the answers appear to be contradictory.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: No Left Turns, 6/4/2004 11:44:08 PM

Must have still killed them to publish it though.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: JER, 6/4/2004 11:55:06 PM

Sure hope everything is in place by November to ensure that each and every military vote is counted.




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Reply 11 - Posted by: mb, 6/5/2004 12:07:20 AM

What #10 said. Amen!



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Reply 12 - Posted by: SmithL, 6/5/2004 12:19:12 AM

THIS Vet favors President Bush.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: Benblayke, 6/5/2004 12:31:57 AM

Bush would never sit down with the enemy while US military personnel were POW's as Kerry did in France 1970. Kerry should be charged, tried and convicted if the statute of limitations has not run out.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: stormy, 6/5/2004 12:42:36 AM

Today Sean Hannity had a link with Ollie North. He was talking about all the injured Troops he's visited. He didn't go into details about their injuries, but, some of them were horrific. He reported that each one of them said they would do it all over again. It's THAT important! WE CAN'T GIVE UP AND WITHDRAW!

From me - and, I'm sure they agree - it would be an insult to those we have lost.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: ProudVet, 6/5/2004 12:45:38 AM

I have the advantage of being close to the DNC. They may have cut off rail traffic into the city but I will find a way in. My first political protest (at 51).
Plan to dress in proper attire (white shirt and tie) with my ribbons and black beret. Also plan to carry a sign with 4 shower flip flops (already in hand). One side of the sign will say "Am I a baby killer?".
The other may say "Kerry is a traitor".
If you have any better ideas feel free to contact me.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: stormy, 6/5/2004 12:48:02 AM

Unlike this stupid poll by Kerry, the veterans that truly care about our country are behind GWB 100 per cent.

(Didn't want to be cut short because of too many words....)


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Reply 17 - Posted by: CorkysDad, 6/5/2004 12:51:00 AM

A phony CBS poll---next it will be a phony Zoby poll--then a phony CNN poll--etc., etc.; all telling us dumb folk we better get on board the Kerry bandwagon-everyone else is------except that wagon got no wheels. A BS poll.


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Reply 18 - Posted by: petie3, 6/5/2004 12:51:26 AM

What is killing the dems is that they know Bush is right and they can't admit it.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: stormy, 6/5/2004 12:56:42 AM

#15, can't think of a better message than 'Kerry is/was a traitor'. Good luck with your protest. Wish I could be there to join you!


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Reply 20 - Posted by: ProudVet, 6/5/2004 1:04:55 AM

The DNC will be fun this year.
The Boston cops are not as likely to strike vets in proper attire with billy clubs. Truth is that many are on our side.
Kerry is not even liked in MA.
And #19 - you and you late husband have fought your war and you did great. My war is still ongoing. It will be over when Kerry goes down in flames.



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Reply 21 - Posted by: Cameron, 6/5/2004 1:25:35 AM

As per #15
I suspect they are closing all the ways into Boston to deter folks such as yourself. The D's would certainly consider you a terrorist. I wish you well and hope other Conservatives join you in your up hill battle. Your commitment and testicular fortitude is respected.


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Reply 22 - Posted by: Btrooper, 6/5/2004 1:34:23 AM

Well, that about clinches the idea that the DemocRATs will now do all they can to nullify or throw out all absentee ballots...especially those from the military..as they did in 2000 in Florida and New Mexico. In New Mexico, all early votes were tossed on a technicality that was set up by the DemocRAT secretary of state...She rigged a tiny flaw before the election, then when Bush was closing in on Gore, she invoked the rule to toss the early votes...of which most are traditionally Republican. If the early voters votes had counted, Fla would not have been an issue...New Mexico was certainly a Bush state with the early votes included. There was no challenge by the state Repubs because by the time the challenge was floated, Fla was pretty much secured.


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Reply 23 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 6/5/2004 2:08:29 AM

Saw a beach cover up in a gift shop that I was very tempted to buy. Was a long t-shirt style covered in a print of colorful beach thongs..aka ...Flip Flops. I understand that it's selling like hotcakes in my Republican leaning neighborhood.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: tukaram, 6/5/2004 2:36:51 AM

Based on 170 vets.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 6/5/2004 3:18:43 AM

This is almost a Dog Bites Man story.


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Reply 26 - Posted by: Ghost Dansing, 6/5/2004 5:35:18 AM

I'm most impressed with Dubya's Texas Air National Guard service during the Vietnam War. I think that is why most Veterans favor Dubya.


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Reply 27 - Posted by: StormCnter, 6/5/2004 6:20:56 AM

"Kerry's eventual choice of running mate has the potential to alter the race for the veterans vote. Some have speculated that Kerry might form a ticket with GOP Senator John McCain, who is also a Vietnam veteran (although McCain has said he has no interest.)"

This is CBS frantically clapping for Tinkerbell to live.


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Reply 28 - Posted by: LT782, 6/5/2004 6:21:31 AM

Why won't scary Kerry release his military records?


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Reply 29 - Posted by: saryden, 6/5/2004 7:05:52 AM

Thank God for all our service men and women, as well as vets, who understand and put, or have put, their lives on the line to defend America's freedom.
How proud we are of them, and how we stand in awe of their courage and strength!
They deserve a leader like President Bush, who supports, arms, and reveres them as well.
We are going to re-elect this great man.


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Reply 30 - Posted by: Sooner, 6/5/2004 7:07:47 AM

When Bush speaks to the troops, it's obvious that they admire him and identify with him because he is a plain-spoken real man. #15, I love it that you are already planning ahead to make your statement in Boston. And, for heaven's sake, let's all go to the polls to vote not take any chances by voting absentee. The Dems will have plenty of dirty tricks up their sleeves in November.


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Reply 31 - Posted by: Jebediah, 6/5/2004 7:53:13 AM

#6 must be from Mass. (maybe Kerry was buying bandaides and bacetracin for new "major"injuries.)


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Reply 32 - Posted by: Gimlet, 6/5/2004 7:56:59 AM

This Veteran became political after Bubba dropped his drawers in the White House and lied about it rather than face the consequence...
Bush gets my vote too!


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Reply 33 - Posted by: frodocasey, 6/5/2004 8:01:57 AM

"Veterans' evaluations of the war in Iraq" is incorrect in its implication because like Afghanistan, Iraq is a Battle not a "war" - the War on Terror is the generic term and will probably include Battles of Iran, Syria etc.


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Reply 34 - Posted by: Mo Gumbo, 6/5/2004 8:03:31 AM

If the Soviets had decided to move into Western Europe during the 60s, President Bush would have been right in the middle of the resulting conflict.
It was called the cold war, Goats. Thousands of Americans were stationed in Europe ready to defend our 'allies' and ourselves if attacked.
If I'm not wrong, ted, 'the hut' kennedy was in Europe as a 'soldier'. He was not a trained fighter pilot, however. I believe he spent quite a lot of time in Switzerland.


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Reply 35 - Posted by: mary ellen, 6/5/2004 8:21:51 AM

Veterans know that President Bush visits hospitals and honors the military without fanfare and hoopla. Unlike Kerry who never lets us forget that he went to Viet Nam and got some medals for an ouchy.


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Reply 36 - Posted by: StormCnter, 6/5/2004 8:24:39 AM

I do not know a single veteran who does not despise Kerry. And their disdain for the man runs too deep for a few smooth-over words from Kerry's hangers-on to fix.


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Reply 37 - Posted by: Dolley Madison, 6/5/2004 8:28:34 AM

This is a perfect, classic example of how the leftists use polls for propaganda; first, they tell you something that is true and that you already know to be true to pull you into the poll: "Vets Favor Bush" says the poll. Well, DUH! says you and I.


Then the clinker that they hope to make you buy: "although even veterans question how well things are going for the U.S. in Iraq and whether the war is worth the costs, a CBS News poll finds" WHAT vets have these questions? If I had these questions, I would not even be in the military.



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Reply 38 - Posted by: acidkibitzer, 6/5/2004 9:19:48 AM

Kerry, friend to tax and spend Dems, fringe leftists and anti-gunners, served a mere four, yes, four months in Vietnam, but wishes to present himself to the voter as a war hero.

Most officers of all branches of the Armed Forces who served in Vietnam did repeated year-tours of Vietnam because they wanted to serve and to advance in rank. That is what real military men do.

Kerry is as phony as a Clinton.


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Reply 39 - Posted by: Chief, 6/5/2004 9:36:12 AM

#26 I notice by your posts that you never served so kindly comment on the things you might have some first hand knowledge of and leave the rest to the adult posters.Commie loving twits are a dime a dozen and all anyone needs to do to find comments like yours is go one of the I hate George Bush sites. SAT CONG


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Reply 40 - Posted by: Sazedog, 6/5/2004 9:37:27 AM

The Demosocialists are getting desperate. I suggest the Secret Service triple the guards around President Bush and other high administration officials.

Democrats have considered assasination before, for example during the Kerry meetings with communists in Kansas City in the 70s, and the Dem group in Florida who recently openly called for the assassiation of Sec. Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

The FBI no doubt have discovered other plots where Democrats planned to kill their opponents or attempt a military coup.

This is serious business with high stakes. It would be naive to think that there are not some people who would not allow a mere life to stand in the way of huge fortunes and power.


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Reply 41 - Posted by: rlwo, 6/5/2004 9:41:31 AM

>>My war is still ongoing. It will be over when Kerry goes down in flames.<<

Very well said. As to why he won't release his records in full is because they will show he had nothing to do with Ted Peck's and his swift boat #94's actions that Kerry claims as his own.

Pseudofantastica logica, that's how his true character manifests itself.




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Reply 42 - Posted by: ProudTexan, 6/5/2004 9:51:41 AM

Poll was taken May 20-23. Help me understand why it took CBS 2 weeks to publish results? Worst spin they could come up with was by focusing on 170 of 1113 respondents?

Must be they wanted us to see the vets had a negative view of the Iraqi front in the war – especially the prison scandal – albeit slightly less negative than the general population. THIS WAY TOO, THEY DON’T NEED TO MENTION THE IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE 2 WEEKS SINCE THE POLL WAS TAKEN.

I’d love to know how they asked their questions. NEVERMIND, I think I know.



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Reply 43 - Posted by: ProudTexan, 6/5/2004 10:05:08 AM

PV, Good luck, I’ll be watching for ya.

My bet is though that the Presstitutes show a very peaceful, supportive public in Boston, but a group of 50 protesters in NY will look like a million mom march.

& GD, so very well said. W’s service was so very much more honorable that “LiveShot’s” 4 months of preening for the cameras, faked injuries and war crimes. I’m glad to see you recognize the very important part the reservists played in Viet Nam, especially the ANG. I’m hoping you’re sincere in your conversion not that someone has stolen your password. (/S) For the record though, “most Veterans favor Dubya” because of his actions as CIC. We look to issues of 30 years ago for indications of character (W had it, LiveShot didn’t). But the most recent behavior under fire is so much more important.



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Reply 44 - Posted by: nutiket, 6/5/2004 10:06:35 AM

#26 This is the level of discourse I expect from you, given the grade level of 8.2 which is indicated by your 'writings' on your pathetic jr. high school homepage. And I repeat: you have no friends here, in case you haven't noticed.


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Reply 45 - Posted by: reality, 6/5/2004 10:30:43 AM

# 30 has the right idea. President Bush loves and respects the soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen, in fact all the service members past and present. J. Fonda Kerry shows disdain for the efforts of those troops and considers himself in a class above them.

The refrain of the old engineer drinking song is something like "we don't give a damn for any old man who don't give a damn for us".

that should sum up our feelings for the turncoat.


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Reply 46 - Posted by: jleev, 6/5/2004 10:39:42 AM

I too admire George Bush's National Guard experience. Lets see was it a 4 or 5 year commitment? And kerry served 4 months faking injuries to get the heck out. And clinton let's see, the dimocrats fav, how much time did he serve? Oh yeah--zero.
Libs are so stupid.


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Reply 47 - Posted by: nofreelunch, 6/5/2004 10:41:48 AM

# 26 --

I'm sure the service you provided to your country was closer to BJ's than President Bush's, so you haven't earned the right to comment on anyone's service.


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Reply 48 - Posted by: Publius3457, 6/5/2004 11:29:03 AM

I think veterans have been very impressed with EffinKerry's treason after coming home after having served honorably. They view him as a traitor, which is why the majority support the President.

Mocking the President's National Guard Service only makes veterans of the Guard angrier, and brings more of them into the President's camp.

So keep it up, Leftist dolts! You help the get the President reelected every time you bring up the subject! Thanks!


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Reply 49 - Posted by: shurnuff, 6/5/2004 11:36:42 AM

Try doing a search for clinton with any troops. I did a very long one..... could not find even one that showed throngs of troops eager to touch him or showing enthusiasm. When he was shown with troops, it would be only a few, unsmiling, or walking with two or three who were obviously instructed to show him around or something.

Contrast that with the happy faces of our military any time GW shows up! No poll needed there!


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Reply 50 - Posted by: ILoveLucy, 6/5/2004 12:02:32 PM

Even the MSM is beginning to get the picture: Dubyah is going to take this one running away. The French and the Germans have already caught on, and we all know how slow they are on the uptake.


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Reply 51 - Posted by: gone2pot, 6/5/2004 12:08:30 PM

I'm a vet, and I favor W, so darn the luck, no Ramadan cards for me this winter.

Hey #15, how about carrying a pair of undies-on-a-stick with a sign saying, "At least our POWS have heads to put these on."

On your flip flops I'd put "in '70, Kerry said I was a baby killer. Now he says I'm a hero."


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Reply 52 - Posted by: Sunflower, 6/5/2004 12:31:38 PM

Hanoi kerry has a merry band of what, 2, 3 Veterans, maybe, who knows???? And they have been promised a position, for sure, if he gets elected, plus they are being paid to follow kawliga lurch around. Didn't Hanoi lurch turn the boat too fast, caused a man overboard, than turned around and saved???? him???? Another plot for an unearned Medal!!!!! Then Hanoi lurch kerry convened with the enemy in Vietnam, not about POW's, but to get his cousin a lucrative business deal there to make billions. Typical RAT, always thinking of themselves, is lurch Hanoi kerry.


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Reply 53 - Posted by: Ratt, 6/5/2004 12:49:25 PM


Good Luck # 15 ......

and yea, # 5, just take the C off CBS .


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Reply 54 - Posted by: mozey, 6/5/2004 1:24:43 PM

HA! With CBS printing that the President has a clear lead, it must be a total wash-out, man! Here is another vet cheering for our CinC. God bless him. He is not afraid of any of them.


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Reply 55 - Posted by: Manyata, 6/5/2004 1:27:24 PM

This retired reservist (and active duty person) knows that the president's ANG service was within the standards provided, since the ANG and the reserves operate under the same standard.

Glad to see that you've realized that, too, #26.

This retired reservist will also be casting her vote for President Bush.


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Reply 56 - Posted by: pwb, 6/5/2004 3:07:56 PM

GD, I am impressed too. He served and then didn’t go around claiming everyone else in the military were a rapist, murderers and druggies, like Hanoi Kerry.
I see where Kerry said he would support the military like he always has. Was that before or after he flipped the bird at a Vietnam Veteran in front of a group of school children?



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Reply 57 - Posted by: realrep, 6/5/2004 3:21:15 PM

In response to #15: I will pray for your safety during your adventures at the dem dog and pony show.
As for sign suggestions...how about mentioning that you are not honored in the North Viet Nam museum as a friend of NVN.
or 'substance over symbolism', 'surrender is not the best option' or 'do you know that you are drinking grape kool-aid?' or 'Do you believe in Arkanicide?'

[prdCOmom]

Well....it was loooooong but a fun read....Thx.
and howdy Marine Wife from an almost Marine Mom
5 days, 14 hours, 36 minutes and counting down till graduation.
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[kate]

Thanks for the post Marine's Wife

and hello soon-to-be- Marine's Mom

think we have a Marine theme so far on this thread
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Thanks! Best of everything to both of you! I'm also a Marine grandma. My baby is in Fallujah.

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Thanks, Ruthie! I'm guessing 80% vets for Bush this year; I think he's going to get at least an extra 15% from their dislike of Kerry. And yes, it's still a Marine thread.

prdCOmom - Give your son a Semper Fi from me!
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Kerry,while "stumping" Friday,was bragging how he would have one MILLION vets with him in November! Wonder where he's gonna find 'em?

[kate]

Kerry's hoping for one million vets? may sound impressive to the media, but...

not a lot out of 26 million, of which 8 million are vietnam vets. That doesnt include active, reserve, guard

census facts
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2003/cb03-ff04se.html
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retracted

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bump
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[LewWaters]

Don't forget Cuba, he seems to be courting Castro now.

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