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integritycounts Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:24 am Post subject: Boston Globe Does it Again!(Intentionally misquoting sources |
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This is another example of the Boston Globe putting out a misquotes, and others media sources picking up on them and repeating them. Just like Elliot the Boston Globe is notified of the error, but does not retract its story. Thus allowing other parts of the MSM to quote the Boston Globe as its source. By quoting the Boston Globe it remove the responsibility of the repeaters of the MSM from being responsible.
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http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/000859.php
September 11, 2004
HOT UPDATE: Dr. Bouffard Speaks About Boston Globe!
INDC EXCLUSIVE!! MUST CREDIT INDC!!
I just interviewed Dr. Bouffard again, and he's angry that the Globe has misrepresented him. He's been getting hate mail and nasty phone calls since last night's story was posted, and he wants me to correct the record. He did not change his mind, and he and his colleagues are becoming more certain that these documents are forgeries.
Instead of providing my analysis of our conversation, I'm largely going to transcribe his unaltered quotes (please note that he's a rather colorful, engaging older gentleman):
(I'm dynamically updating as I transcribe quotes, so keep refreshing)
"What the Boston Globe did now sort of pisses me off, because now I have people calling me and e-mailing me, and calling me names, saying that I changed my mind. I did not change my mind at all!"
"I would appreciate it if you could do whatever it takes to clear this up, through your internet site, or whatever."
"All I'd done is say, 'Hey I want to look into it.' Please correct that damn impression!"
"What I said to them was, I got new information about possible Selectric fonts and (Air Force) documents that indicated a Selectric machine could have been available, and I needed to do more analysis and consider it."
"But the more information we get and the more my colleagues look at this, we're more convinced that there are significant differences between the type of the (IBM) Composer that was available and the questionable document."
"The (new Selectric) typefaces sent to me invalidated the theory about the foot on the four (originally reported to INDC), but after looking at this more, there are still many more things that say this is bogus."
"... there are so many things that are not right; 's crossings,' 'downstrokes' ..."
"More things were looked into; more things about IBM options. Even if you bought special (superscripting) keys, it's not right. There are all kinds of things that say that this is not a typewriter."
"Any form of kerning may be critical (he hasn't rendered a definitive verdict if there is a form of kerning yet). If there is any type of kerning, it obviously isn't a typewriter or it's definitely a typeset document."
On the Globe and others:
"You talk to someone on the phone and it comes out different than you said!"
On the source of the 1969 Air Force Supply Memo:
Dr. Bouffard received an e-mail from the address of Roy Huber, a noted retired forensic analyst in Ottawa, but a response indicated that it was Lynn Huber.
"I presumed that it was a relative of Roy. The document said that there are fonts from the IBM that don't have the foot on the '4.'"
The e-mail also contained an attachment to possible Selectric fonts that indicated that the "4" had a foot, and the Air Force memo that indicated that the military purchase of such a machine was a possibility.
But since having had more time to analyze the fonts of the Selectric:
"We've looked into more and more IBM options and ... there are all kinds of things that say this isn't a typewriter."
UPDATE: These are all the transcribable quotes that Dr. Bouffard gave me at this time. More as the story develops.
I provide his words, you decide ... but I have come to the definitive conclusion that the Boston Globe misrepresented their main source's testimony to stunningly misleading effect.
Whether or not the docs are even forgeries or not is almost secondary in the media narrative at this point. The fact is, Dr. Bouffard was used as the main source to write the following headline in the Boston Globe:
Authenticity backed on Bush documents
Square that headline with the quotes from their source that are listed above.
UPDATE: NOTE TO COMMENTERS - Feel free to parse the details of whether the document is fake or not, if that's your passion, but I think that many of you that bother are missing the real point here. At this point, with this angle, the veracity of the document is almost secondary to the Boston Globe's willingness to mislead you into believing that the case is closed.
UPDATE: Also, to be perfectly clear - Dr. Bouffard is not indicating yet that the the docs are definitely fake, he's just clueing me in on a preponderance of indications that it may be likely. Expert analysis is still underway.
Just want to make sure that I don't present a mischaracterization that is the opposite of the Globe's presentation.
UPDATE: By the way, if anyone would like to contact the ombudsman for the Globe ...
Christine Chinlund
ombud@globe.com
617-929-3020 / 3022
Is misrepresentation by the Globe a pattern?
UPDATE: By the way, read my previous analysis of the Boston Globe story, written before I re-interviewed Dr. Bouffard for this post. Was my analysis correct?
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integritycounts Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:30 am Post subject: |
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http://patterico.com/archives/002693.php
September 11, 2004
Deja Vu: Man Says Boston Globe Has Misrepresented Him
A man gives an opinion based on his unique knowledge of a controversial situation. His opinion hurts the Kerry campaign. The Boston Globe interviews the man, and claims he has changed his story. The man furiously denounces the Boston Globe, saying the Globe has egregiously misrepresented his statements. In fact, he says, he has not retracted his original opinion at all.
Hmmmm. Where have I heard this before?
UPDATE: Is anyone surprised that CBS News has repeated the Boston Globe lie? |
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integritycounts Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Slow-Motion Train Wreck http://powerlineblog.com/archives/007804.php
We noted earlier that the Boston Globe cited Dr. Philip Bouffard as its prime source for the claim that the forged CBS documents were created on a typewriter, but that Dr. Bouffard has now complained that the Boston Globe misquoted him and that in fact, "There are all kinds of things that say that this is not a typewriter."
Now, unbelievably, CBS News is relying on the Globe's misquotation of Dr. Bouffard to shore up their own untenable claims of the documents' authenticity! I guess I'm beyond being shocked by anything CBS News does, but they must have known that Bouffard has complained about the Globe's misuse of his name.
This is, of course, a sign of CBS's desperation, but it is revealing in this respect: CBS claims to have thoroughly investigated and validated the documents before they ran their story. Yet the key witness they relied on, Gen. Bobby Hodges, has said that he was lied to by CBS News and that in fact he thinks the documents are forgeries. Notwithstanding their supposed investigation, CBS is so hard up for ammunition to support their position that they have to repeat an already-exposed lie by the Globe. |
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integritycounts Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Guy on Fox...some talking head for Kerry....just quoted off the Boston Globe story about the documents may be authentic still.
Just like with Elliot misquotes others repeat the false story out, even though the subject of the interview has request the record be corrected |
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bergstrom79 Ensign
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget about yet another Boston Globe butcher job last spring. They ran photos of Iraqi women in prison that were supposedly raped by GI's. Problem is, the photos were taken from a porn site and not an Iraq prison. No US military personnel were involved.
How does a paper like this stay in business? |
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producehawk PO1
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Down with the MSM. |
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joeshero Commander
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:17 am Post subject: |
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We probably should start renaming the paper as BBB= Boston "Baghdag Bob". _________________ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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noc PO1
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:21 am Post subject: |
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I'm just glad that Dr. Bouffard backed off the IBM Selectric Composer as being posssible. Sure does sound like he never completely bought into the idea to begin with. |
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CandiM LCDR
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:11 am Post subject: |
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The MSM in general and operations like CBS News, the NYT and the Boston Globe in particular are digging their own graves--Assuming that they continue this kind of abuse of their sources, before long their sources are going to dry up--
Why would anyone agree to talk to them when the chances that they will be misquoted and subsequently accused of "changing their minds", or, worse yet, "changing their stories" when they attempt to correct the record?--It's getting to the point where anyone who wishes to maintain his/her credibility really needs to think long and hard before speaking to any of these jerks--C _________________ “I haven’t seen anyone milk this much out of a bad boat ride since Gilligan” -- Dennis Miller |
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integritycounts Rear Admiral
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ord33 Rear Admiral
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Chalk up another person misquoted and distorted by the Boston Globe. Col. Earl Lively described on Fox News this morning about how the Globe misquoted him in a story some time ago about Pres. Bush's National Guard Service.
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/windows/0,3783,12090:300,00.wvx
(Have to wait past ad at beginning in order to view the video) |
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