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[Bernard Cullen]

At certain times it is important to restate the obvious. I believe that, notwithstanding the incredible expertise, diligence and sound resoning demonstrate on this site, the central thesis of UFC would have been proven if the MSM had made a genuine effort to research Mr. Kerry. Therefore, besides the utter foolishness of CBS's and Dan Rather's championing of suspect memos to prove what in any case is a marginally significant "bending of the rules" - the more significant fact is their complete and utter discounting of the charges against Kerry in UFC. There has been absolutely no MSM pressure on Mr. Kerry to sign a Form 180, despite WAPO's clear statement that more records are available.
True we have to clear the ground of the false memos, but then the full court press should be on the MSM to re-establish their credibility by going full bore after Mr. Kerry's records. The MSM may be vulnerable and we should try to leverage this vulnerability to get them to at last treat Mr. O'Neill with the respect and seriousness he deserves.

We should start to thank ABC and any other outlets for doing their job wrt the Memos and remind them that Mr. Kerry's record needs the same microscopic examination that they have given to Pres. Bush.

Bernie

Admin note: I have taken the liberty of re-naming the topic so as not to mislead forum members that Rather/CBS/Forgery topics can now be posted here. Your message relates to MSM's abysmal failure to "investigate" Kerry with anything more than cursory disdain and is appropriate for this forum. Thanks

[Tom Poole]

IMO, CBS now is a 527 and Rather is merely another Moore. Rather has disgracefully corrupted the First Amendment beyond what even our founding fathers could have imagined.

[Dimsdale]

The way that the two parallel stories of Bush and Kerry have been handled is one of the most transparently partisan controversies ever to hit an election.

1) compare the levels of scrutiny of the 30+year old military records of the two men:

Bush had signed the 180, or done the equivalent with the huge document dump they did months ago, but it is never enough. I believe the AP has acutally sued Bush for his records. As we all know, CBS has stooped to making up, or using forged documentaries to generate a story on Bush. An honorable discharge is insufficient. Every Tom, Dick and Harry with an accusation or a book about Bush's ANG service is given virtually unlimited fact time on so called news shows and daytime/morning talk shows. Bush is called a liar when he hasn't made any comment at all about his ANG service. Bush has complimented Kerry on his service in the Naval reserve, saying "it was more honorable than mine."

Kerry refuses to sign the 180, releasing a meager 6 pages of hundreds known to exist in his file. This is sufficient to the Dan Rathers of the world. The is no suit to get Kerry's military files. Nobody has had to forge a document to get a story on Kerry, but an honest, well researched book on his "expoits" in Vietnam is completely ignored by the MSM, and when forced to do so, they react with lies and smears against the SBVT, preferring to interview the likes of Carville, Begala an Harkin rather than O'Neill. They interview without even having read the book. O'Neill can only get facetime on conservative talk shows, which the MSM uses to invalidate the SBVT. Kerry is considered truthful and above reproach, even when admitting that he has lied for 30 years about seminal events that NEVER occurred, and has made these events the centerpiece of his campaign. Kerry has criticized Bush and the National Guard in general on multiple occasions, demeaning both as "not good enough" as compared to his "two tours of duty" in Vietnam.

The evidence is there, slapping the MSM and the public in the face, yet they both ignore it for the most part. The two cases could not be much more analogous, but they are treated like completely different situations, one an adored son, the other a bastard stepchild.

The First Amendment is designed to prevent coercion or suppression of the press and free speech, but it is not designed to protect blatant partisan propaganda under the guise of objective reporting, particularly when designed to influence a national election.

The hypocrisy and partiality of the MSM sickens me.
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[Bernard Cullen]

[slickwillie2001]

Why isn't the fact that John Kerry enlisted in the Naval Reserve discussed? The standard line from the msm is that 'John Kerry volunteered for service in Vietnam', or 'he volunteered to put himself in the line of fire.' By enlisting in the Reserve wasn't he attempting to do what everyone else wanted to do, -enlist in something more safe than the Army? Did he know at the time of enlistment that the unit he was going into was bound for Vietnam, or did the unit know?

We do know that he had expected to serve coastal duty only on his boat, a duty no more dangerous than stateside Coast Guard. He likely volunteered for swift boats as that would afford him Kennedy-like photo-ops. (PT boat variety, not diving)

How difficult was it to get into the Naval Reserve at that time? We constantly hear from the msm how GWB 'went to the top of the list' and got 'one of the coveted spots' on the ANG sign-up list (which was actually only 10 names long). Did anyone help Kerry get into the Reserve? Did he or his family have friends high up in the government or military that helped him get in? How long was the list there?

Others that signed up for the Naval Reserve around that period should know the answers to these questions.

S/W

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

The fact that Kerry was a Naval Officer with a Reserve Commission is a non-starter.

Nearly all Academy grads are given Regular Navy Commissions and nearly all non-Academy grads are given Reserve Commissions.

They retain Reserve Commissions until they accept promotion to O4, LCDR.
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