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tractorsq
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 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:17 am Post subject: Kerry is still at it |
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| Whats the difference in the way Kerry protested Vietnam in the early 70's and the way he is campaigning now against Iraq? He just won't quit!!! |
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LewWaters
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Kerry rides the waves of what he feels is the public opinion. If he feels the majority is pro-war, so is he. If he feels they are anti-war, so is he. He tried the anti-war approach in the early 70s to propel him into office and failed, he severely misjudged public opinion. Until very recently, he's been pro-war, just that he could do it better.
Come November 3, I believe he will see that once again, he has severely misjudged public opinion. We want a leader, not a follower at the helm.
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rockmf
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Im curious if he has " a date" when he thinks we can pull out of Iraq like he wanted in Nam? I only know of one person with me in Iraq that wants to vote for Kerry and Im working on this kid. He seems to think that Kerry will end the war. Ive told him after 10 trips to this desert in the past 14 years and 3 presidents i dont see it ending anytime soon!!! I look at it like this, I will probably have atleast 6 more trips to the desert before i retire so the good thing is it is "job security" at the minimum but it is helping a country of people that need to know something besides poverty, death and destruction from a Dictator. at the end of my "tour of duty" here i plan on this kid voting for bush. hell atleast write in Mickey Mouse as long as it isnt Flip Flop Kerry!!!!!!
BTW they have the kerry flip flops on foxnews.com under campaign collectables (makes good target practice)
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| Quote: | In an interview published in the new issue of Rolling Stone magazine, Mr. Kerry was asked what he would want people to remember about his presidency. He responded, "That it always told the truth to the American people."
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And, he's got 'INTERNATIONAL LEADERS' backing him....!!!
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Vietnam veteran Bob Paris at a Ho Chi Minh City war museum Friday with a photograph formerly on display. At right is a copy of "Unfit for Command."
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MISSION: IMPLAUSIBLE
Communist museum removes Kerry photo
Vet discovers manager put it in drawer after it got publicity
Posted: October 25, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Art Moore
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Apparently concerned about influencing the U.S. presidential campaign, Vietnamese communist officials ordered a war museum in Ho Chi Minh City to remove a photograph of John Kerry from a display that was highlighted in "Unfit for Command," the best-seller challenging the senator's version of his military service and his antiwar activities.
Vietnam veteran Bob Paris at a Ho Chi Minh City war museum Friday with a photograph formerly on display. At right is a copy of "Unfit for Command." (Courtesy: Bob Paris)
"Unfit for Command" described the photo as "part of an exhibit honoring heroes who had helped the Vietnamese communists win the war against the United States."
An angered American veteran of the Vietnam War who learned of the photograph through the book, traveled last week to the former Saigon to see it for himself.
But Bob Paris, an ex-Army helicopter pilot who now lives in Hawaii, said he discovered Thursday that the museum manager removed the picture from the display about one month ago and stuffed it in a desk drawer.
Saturday, however, Paris returned to the museum to find the picture had been put back on the wall – this time in a display clearly designed to emphasize Kerry's diplomatic efforts as a senator rather than his more controversial antiwar activities.
"Unfit for Command" co-author Jerome Corsi believes the removal and recasting of the photo is indication Vietnamese officials don't want to embarrass Kerry.
"The communists don't want to do anything that would be detrimental to him being elected," Corsi told WND. "If he wants foreign leaders to support him, he can certainly count on Vietnam's communist regime."
As WND reported in June, the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum – formerly known as the "War Crimes Museum" – displayed the picture in a hall that, according to a plaque, honored activists around the world for their "wholehearted support and strong encouragement to our people's patriotic resistance against the U.S. for national salvation."
The photograph shows Sen. Kerry meeting communist officials in 1993 as a member of a U.S. delegation.
The English placard below the photo read: "Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnamese Communist Party met with Congressman and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18, 1993)."
In an e-mail obtained by WND, Paris said that when he arrived Thursday, he couldn't find the photo and began searching the grounds.
He found the manager and asked about it.
"This is when I witnessed [the manager] take the picture out of his desk drawer, and I was told that he had been directed to remove the picture a month earlier," Paris said.
The veteran said he was able to get permission to have himself photographed with the Kerry picture Friday afternoon.
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took this photograph of a display at a Ho Chi Minh City museum honoring war protesters. |
The first documentation of the picture was acquired by Vietnam veteran Bill Lupetti and publicized by Vietnam Vets for the Truth, a group that held a rally against Kerry's candidacy in Washington in September.
The group said the photograph's "unquestionable significance" lies in its placement in the American protesters' section of the museum.
"The Vietnamese communists clearly recognize John Kerry's contributions to their victory," group spokesman Jeff Epstein said in June.
Now, according to a report from Paris yesterday, "There was a new display of pictures and the hard communist war rhetoric that was present in the old display is now been changed. Kerry is no longer featured as a North Vietnamese war hero, but as a visiting American diplomat."
Corsi believes Vietnamese officials' attempt to modify the display reinforces a major point made in "Unfit for Command."
"The Vietnamese communists have always seen John Kerry as their go-to guy," he said.
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BUSTED, AGAIN....!!!!
Security Council members deny meeting Kerry
By Joel Mowbray
SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
U.N. ambassadors from several nations are disputing assertions by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry that he met for hours with all members of the U.N. Security Council just a week before voting in October 2002 to authorize the use of force in Iraq.
An investigation by The Washington Times reveals that while the candidate did talk for an unspecified period to at least a few members of the panel, no such meeting, as described by Mr. Kerry on a number of occasions over the past year, ever occurred.
At the second presidential debate earlier this month, Mr. Kerry said he was more attuned to international concerns on Iraq than President Bush, citing his meeting with the entire Security Council.
"This president hasn't listened. I went to meet with the members of the Security Council in the week before we voted. I went to New York. I talked to all of them, to find out how serious they were about really holding Saddam Hussein accountable," Mr. Kerry said of the Iraqi dictator.
Speaking before the Council on Foreign Relations in New York in December 2003, Mr. Kerry explained that he understood the "real readiness" of the United Nations to "take this seriously" because he met "with the entire Security Council, and we spent a couple of hours talking about what they saw as the path to a united front in order to be able to deal with Saddam Hussein."
But of the five ambassadors on the Security Council in 2002 who were reached directly for comment, four said they had never met Mr. Kerry. The four also said that no one who worked for their countries' U.N. missions had met with Mr. Kerry either.
The former ambassadors who said on the record they had never met Mr. Kerry included the representatives of Mexico, Colombia and Bulgaria. The ambassador of a fourth country gave a similar account on the condition that his country not be identified.
Ambassador Andres Franco, the permanent deputy representative from Colombia during its Security Council membership from 2001 to 2002, said, "I never heard of anything."
Although Mr. Franco was quick to note that Mr. Kerry could have met some members of the panel, he also said that "everything can be heard in the corridors."
Adolfo Aguilar Zinser, Mexico's then-ambassador to the United Nations, said: "There was no meeting with John Kerry before Resolution 1441, or at least not in my memory."
All had vivid recollections of the time frame when Mr. Kerry traveled to New York, as it was shortly before the Nov. 7, 2002, enactment of Resolution 1441, which said Iraq was in "material breach" of earlier disarmament resolutions and warned Baghdad of "serious consequences as a result of its continued violations."
Stefan Tafrov, Bulgaria's ambassador at the time, said he remembers the period well because it "was a very contentious time."
After conversations with ambassadors from five members of the Security Council in 2002 and calls to all the missions of the countries then on the panel, The Times was only able to confirm directly that Mr. Kerry had met with representatives of France, Singapore and Cameroon.
In addition, second-hand accounts have Mr. Kerry meeting with representatives of Britain.
When reached for comment last week, an official with the Kerry campaign stood by the candidate's previous claims that he had met with the entire Security Council.
But after being told late yesterday of the results of The Times investigation, the Kerry campaign issued a statement that read in part, "It was a closed meeting and a private discussion."
A Kerry aide refused to identify who participated in the meeting.
The statement did not repeat Mr. Kerry's claims of a lengthy meeting with the entire 15-member Security Council, instead saying the candidate "met with a group of representatives of countries sitting on the Security Council."
Asked whether the international body had any records of Mr. Kerry sitting down with the whole council, a U.N. spokesman said that "our office does not have any record of this meeting."
A U.S. official with intimate knowledge of the Security Council's actions in fall of 2002 said that he was not aware of any meeting Mr. Kerry had with members of the panel.
An official at the U.S. mission to the United Nations remarked: "We were as surprised as anyone when Kerry started talking about a meeting with the Security Council."
Jean-David Levitte, then France's chief U.N. representative and now his country's ambassador to the United States, said through a spokeswoman that Mr. Kerry did not have a single group meeting as the senator has described, but rather several one-on-one or small-group encounters.
He added that Mr. Kerry did not meet with every member of the Security Council, only "some" of them. Mr. Levitte could only name himself and Ambassador Jeremy Greenstock of Britain as the Security Council members with whom Mr. Kerry had met.
One diplomat who met with Mr. Kerry in 2002 said on the condition of anonymity that the candidate talked to "a few" ambassadors on the Security Council.
The revelation that Mr. Kerry never met with the entire U.N. Security Council could be problematic for the Massachusetts senator, as it clashes with one of his central foreign-policy campaign themes — honesty.
At a New Mexico rally last month, Mr. Kerry said Mr. Bush will "do anything he can to cover up the truth." At what campaign aides billed as a major foreign-policy address, Mr. Kerry said at New York University last month that "the first and most fundamental mistake was the president's failure to tell the truth to the American people."
In recent months, Mr. Kerry has faced numerous charges of dishonesty from Vietnam veterans over his war record, and his campaign has backtracked before from previous statements about Mr. Kerry's foreign diplomacy.
For example, in March, Mr. Kerry told reporters in Florida that he'd met with foreign leaders who privately endorsed him.
"I've met with foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly," he said. "But, boy, they look at you and say: 'You've got to win this. You've got to beat this guy. We need a new policy.' "
But the senator refused to document his claim and a review by The Times showed that Mr. Kerry had made no official foreign trips since the start of 2002, according to Senate records and his own published schedules. An extensive review of Mr. Kerry's domestic travel schedule revealed only one opportunity for him to have met foreign leaders here.
After a week of bad press, Kerry foreign-policy adviser Rand Beers said the candidate "does not seek, and will not accept, any such endorsements."
The Democrat has also made his own veracity a centerpiece of his campaign, calling truthfulness "the fundamental test of leadership."
Mr. Kerry closed the final debate by recounting what his mother told him from her hospital bed, "Remember: integrity, integrity, integrity."
In an interview published in the new issue of Rolling Stone magazine, Mr. Kerry was asked what he would want people to remember about his presidency. He responded, "That it always told the truth to the American people."
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Clinton lived in a dream world....and now seeks to run it via the UN...
Gore was imbalanced....
KERRY is a SOCIOPATHIC LIAR.....!!!!!
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