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NoDonkey
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 Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: The 9/11 Commission Chairman Speaks the Truth |
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Lest we forget, here's a mural celebrating 9/11 found by US troops on a Iraqi military govt building:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/26/sprj.irq.mural/
The plane's logo and coloring resembled that of Iraqi Airlines, said Getty Images News Service executive Brian Felber, based in New York.
Nothing to see here though. CNN will return you to regular programming, including moonbat conspiracy theories about Halliburton by our new anchorman, Michael Moore.
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ROTC DAD wrote: |
The CIA, FBI, State Department, The 9-11 Commission, and God knows how many others have all stated that there is "no credible evidence" that Al Qeada and Iraq worked together, yet both of you know better. Please, let the rest of us in on your secret source of information. |
9/11 commission co-chairman Lee Hamilton, a Democrat, said today there is no disagreement between the commission and the administration over links between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Commission members said today there were links, just not a working relationship on 9/11 and no evidence of any Iraqi involvement in 9/11. The panel's Republican chairman says there were "contacts" between Saddam Hussein's government and the militant group. Tom Kean says some contacts "were shadowy -- but they were there." Condoleeza Rice: "you just have to look at repeated contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda over more than a decade" ( http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1963759 ). A DECADE?
I remind that if the contacts were "shadowy", there is likely a lot we don't know about the nature of the contacts and the results of the contacts. Forensically speaking, it is utter incompetence and recklessness beyond the comprehension of sane, sentient beings to dismiss this.
As in USA Today: "It may be that all of the contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda never resulted in joint terrorist attacks. But considering all that we knew, no responsible leader could take for granted that such a collaboration would never happen." ( http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-06-17-hadley_x.htm )
If a person reads "The National Security Strategy of the United States of America" ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss.html ), they will understand the reasonable belief that those who harbor and have contacts or relationships with terrorist organizations are a danger to the U.S. and the world and are targets of the war on terrorists.
A web search on the terms "Clinton Iraq 1998" ( here, done for you, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Clinton+Iraq+1998&btnG=Google+Search ), as an example, shows that Bush did not make anything up about WMD concerns. (Sadly for leftists, the ARPA-initiated Internet, plus search engines, have made the standard technique of "history revision" piloted by Lenin and Stalin, and refined by Goebbels and Hitler et. al., more and more difficult.)
Coupled with Putin's revelations today that his country warned the United States several times that Saddam Hussein's regime was planning terror attacks on the United States and its overseas interests ( http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/18/saddam.terror/ ), I think the war against Hussein's regime was quite well justified.
ROTC DAD, I have a suggestion for you.
Why not just post repeatedly and emphatically that 1 + 1 = 3 ??
That way, you could get your hysterical disagreements with the evil worldwide forces of rationality off your chest without pissing anyone off (except, perhaps, for any mathemeticians who might read this board).
Best,
FDL
(A thought occurred to me. Perhaps leftists think what we mean by the term "hysterical" is "funny" in the humor sense, instead of the correct meaning of "severely irrational"?? Perhaps they resent being called comedians?)
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ASPB
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Just a little more evidence:
| Quote: | Russia's Warning
Amid the fake news about the 9/11 commission exonerating Saddam Hussein, here's an item that's not getting the attention it deserves: CNN reports from Moscow that "Russian intelligence services warned Washington several times that Saddam Hussein's regime planned terrorist attacks against the United States, President Vladimir Putin has said":
The warnings were provided after September 11, 2001 and before the start of the Iraqi war, Putin said Friday.
The planned attacks were targeted both inside and outside the United States, said Putin, who made the remarks during a visit to Kazakhstan. . . .
"I can confirm that after the events of September 11, 2001, and up to the military operation in Iraq, Russian special services and Russian intelligence several times received . . . information that official organs of Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist acts on the territory of the United States and beyond its borders, at U.S. military and civilian locations," Putin said.
Putin says there's no evidence that the erstwhile Iraqi regime actually carried out any such attacks--but the view of those who persist in trying to discredit Iraq's liberation seems to be that America should have waited until it did. |
And Another Thing:
| Quote: | McDowdification
For an example of just how dishonest the partisan press prepared to be in its effort to discredit President Bush's wartime leadership, look at this passage from yesterday's USA Today:
Bush and Cheney also have sought to tie Iraq specifically to the 9/11 attacks. In a letter to Congress on March 19, 2003--the day the war in Iraq began--Bush said that the war was permitted under legislation authorizing force against those who ''planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.''
Here's what the letter, a prerequisite for the commencement of military action under the bipartisan Iraq war resolution, actually said:
Acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
That is, the president's letter did not claim, as USA Today implies, that Iraq was culpable for the Sept. 11 attacks, only that Iraq's liberation was consistent with the effort to fight terrorists, including those who were behind 9/11. |
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kate
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Bill O'Reilly went after the leftist press over this
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123067,00.html
Misleading Reporting Friday, June 18, 2004 By Bill O'Reilly
Once again we are mislead by some in the press.
The 9/11 Commission has come to some conclusions and Thursday newspapers across the country blared headlines.
The New York Times wrote: "Panel Finds No Qaeda-Iraq tie."
The Washington Post put forth: "Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed."
The Los Angeles Times opined: "No Signs of Iraq-Al Qaeda Ties Found."
And even the conservative Wall Street Journal trumpeted: "No Iraq-al Qaeda Link."
But if you read below the headlines you see the Commission said something a bit different: That there was no a collaborative relationship between Saddam and Al Qaeda regarding Sept. 11. That's true, but there were certainly links and ties between Saddam and Al Qaeda and that's provable.
So, what we have hear is spin. Some in the press used the Commission's report -- which is accurate -- to suggest Bush mislead the public about Saddam and Al Qaeda.
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Friday, June 18, 2004
Hopefully you were watching last night when the Factor established that, contrary to headlines from earlier in the week, there were demonstrable ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Vice President Cheney agreed. Anti-Bush zealots are hurting us all by misleading us, and putting our lives in danger.
Read a copy of the letter from George Tenet as it appeared in the Congressional Record, as mentioned in tonight's Talking Points Memo. http://www.billoreilly.com/images/PDF/s10154.pdf
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War Dog
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: |
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Good Post Kate!
It's time for the gloves to come off!
FRIGGIN WAR WOOF!
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