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ord33
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Here is info for Donald Nelson if someone wants to contact him (info is from 2000, may not be current).
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http://www.nrjag.org/2000dir.htm |
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Rdtf
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| you folks are GOOD! |
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Spotted One
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gulf1609
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Hold on guys. Shouldn't Navy Chief or someone with more clout than most of us have contact these guys? I don't want to make them mad by being bombarded by all of us. Bombard Frist and Zell and your local congressman but this may need to be handled with a little finese. All of this assumes these guys are not already a part of the swiftvet movement. |
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ord33
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gulf,
I agree, I was hoping Chief could make the call, but he's waiting on a pretty important call now I think!  |
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NavyChief
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Location: Boise, Idaho
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New information has developed on Kerry's Discharge. We have been proven correct in our assertions, however without the proper folks coming forward this will not be public until after the elections.
- Chief
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Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work? |
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gulf1609
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone else want to volunteer to contact? Any other JAG out there? May understand the specifics better. Needs to be military person. |
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ord33
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Chief,
A real quick question if I may. If a discharge is upgraded to "honorable" does it state so on the honorable discharge certificate itself? On Kerry's website the cover letter says "Encl: (1) Honorable Discharge Certificate" -- which I am sure you are aware of...But what if the press hit hard on the release of this certificate, he HAS to have it? Obviously, he probably wouldnt release it if it was negative toward him, but still get people shouting from the rooftops to release the actual certificate. This could be done in a short period of time, unlike signing SF-180. Thanks! |
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gulf1609
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Chief,
Are these men worth contacting or have they already been spoken to? Anything to get the info out earlier? Why can't we just run with rumors, Kerry does-- |
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kimberly
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| NavyChief wrote: | New information has developed on Kerry's Discharge. We have been proven correct in our assertions, however without the proper folks coming forward this will not be public until after the elections.
- Chief |
I guess that's good news and bad news  especially if the 'proper' folks are not willing to come forward 
Thanks for the update!
Kimberly |
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Fort Campbell
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Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| NavyChief wrote: | New information has developed on Kerry's Discharge. We have been proven correct in our assertions, however without the proper folks coming forward this will not be public until after the elections.
- Chief |
And who would the proper people be? We can be persuasive. |
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stylin19
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| NavyChief wrote: | New information has developed on Kerry's Discharge. We have been proven correct in our assertions, however without the proper folks coming forward this will not be public until after the elections.
- Chief |
Even if Sen. Kerry gets elected ? If he does, it'll never see the light of day
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IDLE13rebelsMC
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Location: Virginia
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| ord33 wrote: | Chief,
A real quick question if I may. If a discharge is upgraded to "honorable" does it state so on the honorable discharge certificate itself? On Kerry's website the cover letter says "Encl: (1) Honorable Discharge Certificate" -- which I am sure you are aware of...But what if the press hit hard on the release of this certificate, he HAS to have it? Obviously, he probably wouldnt release it if it was negative toward him, but still get people shouting from the rooftops to release the actual certificate. This could be done in a short period of time, unlike signing SF-180. Thanks! |
Ladies and Gents:
THE KEY IS "SEPARATION PROGRAM NUMBERS."
SPNs are codes that are contained in military records and may be annotated on various military separation documents, such as the DD-214. These codes are subject to change. The Department of Defense halted the military services from releasing the meanings of these alphanumerics -- heh, because some employers were able to obtain them and find out what sort of individual they were poised to hire. I suppose that puts all of us in the employer's seat, now, doesn't it?
For SPNs prior to the DOD info shut-off, you can google "Separation Program Numbers" and get a slew of sites. Example: everyone in the military remembers someone who applied for a "hardship" discharge. Well that code (227) would appear in the DD-214 and posssibly on other documents.
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one more captins mast
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Joined: 10 Aug 2004
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject: ONE MORE TIME,,,,, |
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ITS OUR COUNTRY NOT THESE GUYS IN DC, OURS,
AND FOR SURE THE TIME IS COMMING WHEN WE BETTER
UNDERSTAND THEY DO NOT WANT US PLAYING IN THEIR
"GOLD SAND" of their private sand box.
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ThanksVets
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Location: Sacramento,Ca
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Zell on Hannity now.. |
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